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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer


+1  to not talk about the other BPEL*.
Yin Leng

-----Original Message-----
From: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 3:27 AM
To: John Evdemon
Cc: charlton_b@mac.com; 'Dieter Koenig'; Diane Jordan; Khanderao Kand; wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer

Actually, the more I think about this I come to the conclusion that a Q&A
is really a publication collateral and *not* a part of a primer document.
We should definitely not talk about the other BPEL* extensions in the
primer - only about extensibility in general as we do it in chapter 6.

Kind Regards
DK
                                                                                                                   
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             John Evdemon                                                  
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                                       Khanderao Kand                      
             28.03.2007 18:43          <khanderao.kand@oracle.com>, Diane  
                                       Jordan <drj@us.ibm.com>             
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                                       "charlton_b@mac.com"                
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                                       RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer  
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           




I initially included BPEL-J so that people would not assume it was part of
the spec.    We may want to include BPEL4People and BPEL4Sub-Processes for
the same reason.
What do you all think?

I forgot about the call this morning - please accept my apologies for
having missed the discussion.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Khanderao Kand [mailto:khanderao.kand@oracle.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:37 AM
> To: Diane Jordan
> Cc: charlton_b@mac.com; 'Dieter Koenig'; wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-
> open.org
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
>
> Hi Diane
>
> Here is the updated primer (Not yet checked in. I would check in after
> today's meeting).
>
> Changes: (I kept the change tracking on).
> I updated the first and third chapter. In the third chapter, I added a
> process flow diagram by reverse engineering some examples from the
> seventh chapter. However, if I get the complete process, I can re-draw
> the process. I also changed the partnerlink's diagram from the forth
> chapter. BTW since BPEL-J is not standardized, do we need to add the
> relationship with BPEL-J? Ayway, I added some more text for BPEL-J.
>
> Minor edits:
> 1. Changed copyright year from 2006 to 2007 2. Changed date in the
> footer.
> 3. Added my name and email in editors section.
>
> I would now need to work on chapter 4 and 5.
> BTW since different editors contributed in different section the style
> and flow is not very consistent. Do we want to make it consistent or
> just keep it as it is?
>
> Thanks
> Khanderao
>
>
> Diane Jordan wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Charlton.
> >
> > I believe  Khanderao should now have the pen.
> >
> > We can discuss these questions when we have the Wed call if
> necessary.
> >
> > Regards, Diane
> > IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards drj@us.ibm.com
> > (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
> >
> >
> >
> > *Charlton Barreto <charlton_b@mac.com>*
> >
> > 03/23/2007 03:06 AM
> >
> >
> > To
> >       wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
> > cc
> >       "'Dieter Koenig'" <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com>
> > Subject
> >       [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear WS-BPEL Primer SG,
> >
> > Attached is a new revision (1.7) of the WS-BPEL Primer
> > (wsbpel-primer-draft). I have also checked this into CVS. This
> > revision contains my reorganisation of data in Section 7 to better
> > combine with the structure in Chapters 4-6.
> >
> > There are a number of remaining issues we should resolve in the
> primer:
> > - Note that I have maintained the captions for the examples in
> Chapter
> > 7. We need to consider numbering these captions in a consistent
> > manner. I highly recommend using the [Chapter]-[Example] format
> (where
> > examples are renumbered for each chapter) so as to make it easier for
> > readers to follow.
> > - We need to complete Section 1
> > - We still need to write Section 3.
> > - I've provided an outline for Section 8.1 and will complete it in
> the
> > next revision
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > -Charlton.
> > --
> > charlton_b@mac.com
> > +1.650.222.6507 m
> > +1.415.692.5396 v
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com]
> > Sent: 16 February 2007 05:53
> > To: wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Cc: Simon D Moser; Diane Jordan
> > Subject: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
> >
> > Dear WS-BPEL Primer Subgroup,
> >
> > Simon and I checked a new revision 1.6 of the WS-BPEL Primer into CVS
> > (also
> > attached here). This revision contains substantial updates of the
> concepts
> > chapters 4-6. We consider chapters 4-6 ready for a review by the
> whole
> > WS-BPEL TC, which has been originally targeted for the second half of
> > February.
> >   (See attached file: wsbpel-primer-draft.doc)
> >
> > Additional comments:
> > - All Editors: chapters 1-3, 8, and appendix A do not yet appear to
> be
> > ready for a TC review.
> > - Charlton: chapter 7 has a number of places where concepts or even
> > definitions of WS-BPEL constructs are introduced. We believe that
> concepts
> > should be explained in chapters 4-6, and Simon and I are committed to
> > fixing holes there as they are discovered in the TC review. Instead,
> we
> > think that chapter 7 should focus more on applying these concepts to
> the
> > concrete business scenario.
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Dieter and Simon
> >





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