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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer


Hi,
In last week's conference call, I volunteered to screen follow-up 
questions from webinars to make a FAQ doc. I am attaching a doc with 
selected questions. Please add/delete questions.

We can update WS-Primer or as Dieter said, we can make a separate 
document for QA.

Thanks
Khanderao

Dieter Koenig1 wrote:
> Actually, the more I think about this I come to the conclusion that a Q&A
> is really a publication collateral and *not* a part of a primer document.
> We should definitely not talk about the other BPEL* extensions in the
> primer - only about extensibility in general as we do it in chapter 6.
>
> Kind Regards
> DK
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>              John Evdemon                                                  
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>                                        Khanderao Kand                      
>              28.03.2007 18:43          <khanderao.kand@oracle.com>, Diane  
>                                        Jordan <drj@us.ibm.com>             
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>                                        RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer  
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> I initially included BPEL-J so that people would not assume it was part of
> the spec.    We may want to include BPEL4People and BPEL4Sub-Processes for
> the same reason.
> What do you all think?
>
> I forgot about the call this morning - please accept my apologies for
> having missed the discussion.
>
> John
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Khanderao Kand [mailto:khanderao.kand@oracle.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:37 AM
>> To: Diane Jordan
>> Cc: charlton_b@mac.com; 'Dieter Koenig'; wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-
>> open.org
>> Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
>>
>> Hi Diane
>>
>> Here is the updated primer (Not yet checked in. I would check in after
>> today's meeting).
>>
>> Changes: (I kept the change tracking on).
>> I updated the first and third chapter. In the third chapter, I added a
>> process flow diagram by reverse engineering some examples from the
>> seventh chapter. However, if I get the complete process, I can re-draw
>> the process. I also changed the partnerlink's diagram from the forth
>> chapter. BTW since BPEL-J is not standardized, do we need to add the
>> relationship with BPEL-J? Ayway, I added some more text for BPEL-J.
>>
>> Minor edits:
>> 1. Changed copyright year from 2006 to 2007 2. Changed date in the
>> footer.
>> 3. Added my name and email in editors section.
>>
>> I would now need to work on chapter 4 and 5.
>> BTW since different editors contributed in different section the style
>> and flow is not very consistent. Do we want to make it consistent or
>> just keep it as it is?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Khanderao
>>
>>
>> Diane Jordan wrote:
>>     
>>> Thanks Charlton.
>>>
>>> I believe  Khanderao should now have the pen.
>>>
>>> We can discuss these questions when we have the Wed call if
>>>       
>> necessary.
>>     
>>> Regards, Diane
>>> IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards drj@us.ibm.com
>>> (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Charlton Barreto <charlton_b@mac.com>*
>>>
>>> 03/23/2007 03:06 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> To
>>>       wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> cc
>>>       "'Dieter Koenig'" <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com>
>>> Subject
>>>       [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer SG,
>>>
>>> Attached is a new revision (1.7) of the WS-BPEL Primer
>>> (wsbpel-primer-draft). I have also checked this into CVS. This
>>> revision contains my reorganisation of data in Section 7 to better
>>> combine with the structure in Chapters 4-6.
>>>
>>> There are a number of remaining issues we should resolve in the
>>>       
>> primer:
>>     
>>> - Note that I have maintained the captions for the examples in
>>>       
>> Chapter
>>     
>>> 7. We need to consider numbering these captions in a consistent
>>> manner. I highly recommend using the [Chapter]-[Example] format
>>>       
>> (where
>>     
>>> examples are renumbered for each chapter) so as to make it easier for
>>> readers to follow.
>>> - We need to complete Section 1
>>> - We still need to write Section 3.
>>> - I've provided an outline for Section 8.1 and will complete it in
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> next revision
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -Charlton.
>>> --
>>> charlton_b@mac.com
>>> +1.650.222.6507 m
>>> +1.415.692.5396 v
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com]
>>> Sent: 16 February 2007 05:53
>>> To: wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Cc: Simon D Moser; Diane Jordan
>>> Subject: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
>>>
>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer Subgroup,
>>>
>>> Simon and I checked a new revision 1.6 of the WS-BPEL Primer into CVS
>>> (also
>>> attached here). This revision contains substantial updates of the
>>>       
>> concepts
>>     
>>> chapters 4-6. We consider chapters 4-6 ready for a review by the
>>>       
>> whole
>>     
>>> WS-BPEL TC, which has been originally targeted for the second half of
>>> February.
>>>   (See attached file: wsbpel-primer-draft.doc)
>>>
>>> Additional comments:
>>> - All Editors: chapters 1-3, 8, and appendix A do not yet appear to
>>>       
>> be
>>     
>>> ready for a TC review.
>>> - Charlton: chapter 7 has a number of places where concepts or even
>>> definitions of WS-BPEL constructs are introduced. We believe that
>>>       
>> concepts
>>     
>>> should be explained in chapters 4-6, and Simon and I are committed to
>>> fixing holes there as they are discovered in the TC review. Instead,
>>>       
>> we
>>     
>>> think that chapter 7 should focus more on applying these concepts to
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> concrete business scenario.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Dieter and Simon
>>>
>>>       
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WS-BPEL-FAQ.doc



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