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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer


Dieter,
As said in the call, I am fine with this proposal.
Thanks
Khanderao
Dieter Koenig1 wrote:
> Hi Khanderao, as discussed on the call - let's prepare two separate
> deliverables: the Primer and an FAQ for the announcement.
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> Kind Regards
> DK
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> Hi,
> In last week's conference call, I volunteered to screen follow-up
> questions from webinars to make a FAQ doc. I am attaching a doc with
> selected questions. Please add/delete questions.
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> We can update WS-Primer or as Dieter said, we can make a separate
> document for QA.
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> Thanks
> Khanderao
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> Dieter Koenig1 wrote:
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>> Actually, the more I think about this I come to the conclusion that a Q&A
>> is really a publication collateral and *not* a part of a primer document.
>> We should definitely not talk about the other BPEL* extensions in the
>> primer - only about extensibility in general as we do it in chapter 6.
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>> Kind Regards
>> DK
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>>  Dieter König                          Mail: dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com
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>>                                        RE: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
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>> I initially included BPEL-J so that people would not assume it was part
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>> What do you all think?
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>> I forgot about the call this morning - please accept my apologies for
>> having missed the discussion.
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Khanderao Kand [mailto:khanderao.kand@oracle.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:37 AM
>>> To: Diane Jordan
>>> Cc: charlton_b@mac.com; 'Dieter Koenig'; wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-
>>> open.org
>>> Subject: Re: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
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>>> Hi Diane
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>>> Here is the updated primer (Not yet checked in. I would check in after
>>> today's meeting).
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>>> Changes: (I kept the change tracking on).
>>> I updated the first and third chapter. In the third chapter, I added a
>>> process flow diagram by reverse engineering some examples from the
>>> seventh chapter. However, if I get the complete process, I can re-draw
>>> the process. I also changed the partnerlink's diagram from the forth
>>> chapter. BTW since BPEL-J is not standardized, do we need to add the
>>> relationship with BPEL-J? Ayway, I added some more text for BPEL-J.
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>>> Minor edits:
>>> 1. Changed copyright year from 2006 to 2007 2. Changed date in the
>>> footer.
>>> 3. Added my name and email in editors section.
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>>> I would now need to work on chapter 4 and 5.
>>> BTW since different editors contributed in different section the style
>>> and flow is not very consistent. Do we want to make it consistent or
>>> just keep it as it is?
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>>> Thanks
>>> Khanderao
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>>> Diane Jordan wrote:
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>>>> Thanks Charlton.
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>>>> I believe  Khanderao should now have the pen.
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>>>> We can discuss these questions when we have the Wed call if
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>>> necessary.
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>>>> Regards, Diane
>>>> IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards drj@us.ibm.com
>>>> (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
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>>>> *Charlton Barreto <charlton_b@mac.com>*
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>>>> 03/23/2007 03:06 AM
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>>>> To
>>>>       wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
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>>>>       "'Dieter Koenig'" <dieterkoenig1@de.ibm.com>
>>>> Subject
>>>>       [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
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>>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer SG,
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>>>> Attached is a new revision (1.7) of the WS-BPEL Primer
>>>> (wsbpel-primer-draft). I have also checked this into CVS. This
>>>> revision contains my reorganisation of data in Section 7 to better
>>>> combine with the structure in Chapters 4-6.
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>>>> There are a number of remaining issues we should resolve in the
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>>> primer:
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>>>> - Note that I have maintained the captions for the examples in
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>>> Chapter
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>>>> 7. We need to consider numbering these captions in a consistent
>>>> manner. I highly recommend using the [Chapter]-[Example] format
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>>> (where
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>>>> examples are renumbered for each chapter) so as to make it easier for
>>>> readers to follow.
>>>> - We need to complete Section 1
>>>> - We still need to write Section 3.
>>>> - I've provided an outline for Section 8.1 and will complete it in
>>>>
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>>> the
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>>>> next revision
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>>>> Best,
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>>>> -Charlton.
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>>>> charlton_b@mac.com
>>>> +1.650.222.6507 m
>>>> +1.415.692.5396 v
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dieter Koenig1 [mailto:dieterkoenig@de.ibm.com]
>>>> Sent: 16 February 2007 05:53
>>>> To: wsbpel-primer@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>> Cc: Simon D Moser; Diane Jordan
>>>> Subject: [wsbpel-primer] WS-BPEL Primer
>>>>
>>>> Dear WS-BPEL Primer Subgroup,
>>>>
>>>> Simon and I checked a new revision 1.6 of the WS-BPEL Primer into CVS
>>>> (also
>>>> attached here). This revision contains substantial updates of the
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>>> concepts
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>>>> chapters 4-6. We consider chapters 4-6 ready for a review by the
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>>> whole
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>>>> WS-BPEL TC, which has been originally targeted for the second half of
>>>> February.
>>>>   (See attached file: wsbpel-primer-draft.doc)
>>>>
>>>> Additional comments:
>>>> - All Editors: chapters 1-3, 8, and appendix A do not yet appear to
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>>> be
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>>>> ready for a TC review.
>>>> - Charlton: chapter 7 has a number of places where concepts or even
>>>> definitions of WS-BPEL constructs are introduced. We believe that
>>>>
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>>> concepts
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>>>> should be explained in chapters 4-6, and Simon and I are committed to
>>>> fixing holes there as they are discovered in the TC review. Instead,
>>>>
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>>> we
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>>>> think that chapter 7 should focus more on applying these concepts to
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>>> the
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>>>> concrete business scenario.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards
>>>> Dieter and Simon
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> [attachment "WS-BPEL-FAQ.doc" deleted by Dieter Koenig1/Germany/IBM]
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