Re: [wsbpel-reqts] notes from Dec. 3 call

[Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com>]

Regarding issues 25, and 30, Satish made a proposal to remove scope 
level compensation handlers that, if accepted, would resolve both of 
these issues. It will nullify issue 25, and may in fact serve as 
proposed resolution for issue 30. I would definitely like to see that 
proposal accepted as a way to resolve issue 30.

Issue 26 simply requires a clarification to the text which fails to 
account for this specific case. Issue 50 also deals with matching a pair 
of receive/reply activities. I would suggest that we add text to the 
specification that will resolve both 50 and 26 at the same time.

Issues 28 and 29 needs to be brought back to discussion. Issue 28 deals 
with modifying the specification to not rely on the XPath specification 
for join conditions, but otherwise doesn't add, remove or change any of 
the capabilities of the language. Issue 29 is a bit more complex and 
tied to how we handle messages, and thus is linked to issue 71. I would 
like to see how we handle messages for both WSDL 1.1 and 2.0 before 
voicing further opinion on issue 29.

Issue 35 was raised in order to track the online discussion we had on 
this issue, which simply dissipated at some point. If there's no further 
interest in continuing this discussion or arguing for a change to the 
specification, I suggest we close it.

Issue 38 requires a clarification to the specification. That 
clarification is offered by the resolution to issue 23, which is generic 
enough to also resolve issue 38. So I believe we can close issue 38 with 
the resolution proposed by issue 23. I would still prefer to have that 
clarification present in the introduction section in addition to where 
issue 23 adds it.

Assaf

Diane Jordan wrote:

>Participants on todays call were:  Monica, Yaron, John,  and Peter. Here's 
>what we discussed for the agenda next week: 
>- Vote on issues with proposed resolutions (50, 62, 77, 85) 
>- Issue discussion
>1. Coordination between processes - prepare for specific issues with the 
>following: 
>- use case from Monica and Sid
>- implementation scenarios with Rania and possibly others
>- discuss  Issues 2, 16, 30, 53-59, 10, 37, 78, 81, 25 and the multi-start 
>thread of email that was active on Oct. 
>2. Correlation (issues left over from Sept. f2f)  including 8, 26, 28, 29, 
>31, 33, 37 and 44.
>3. Error handling and compensation (leftover from Sept f2f) including 1, 
>25, 30.
>4. WSDL, XML and related issues (left over from Sept.): 11, 15
>5. Event handler issues (left over from Sept): 43
>
>John and I will flesh this out the other topics folks have suggested.  We 
>will break approx. every 2 hrs. to recap for phone participants and vote 
>as appropriate. 
>
>Monica will let me know tomorrow if its ok to include the use case she and 
>Sid are working on on the agenda (also let me know if it should have a 
>better name).     We put the coordination between processes early on the 
>agenda so that the implementation work can be done in time to accomodate 
>the schedules of a couple participants in it as we expect that discussion 
>and the use case discussion to shed some light on the overall topic. 
>
>We also discussed the concept of trying to work on a "meta issue" related 
>to support for legacy applications.  The consensus was that this should be 
>dealt with on a case by case basis as problem areas are identified (eg, 
>issue 77). 
>
>Regards, Diane
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