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Subject: RE: [chairs] RE: [members] OASIS member review of proposed revision of TC Process


Concerning the rule in the proposed process revision:

>> | "All resources of the TC and its associated
>> | subcommittees, including web pages, documents, email
>> | lists and any other discussions, must be located only
>> | on facilities provided by OASIS; TCs and SCs may not conduct
>> | business or technical discussions, store documents, or host web 
>> | pages on non-OASIS servers. All web pages, documents, and email 
>> | archives of all TCs and SCs shall be publicly visible."

which would only be ok if OASIS facilities were invariably the most
flexible and easiest to use and setup. In practice, and despite efforts
by OASIS staff, this is inevitably not the case.

The particular requirement I'm concerned with is the BPEL group issue
list. This is maintained with a set of scripts that scan the email
archive and link emails there to 
the issue. The scripts also take direct edits to update the status of
issues, add new ones etc. To provide a fixed url for the list, and keep
it up-to-date, the "working copy" of the issue list is kept at
http://www.choreology.com/external/WS_BPEL_issues_list.html
and the scripts submit the new version of the list to that via ftp,
automatically. The list is made a formal tc document every so often by
manual upload using Kavi, once a week or so. Doing all the updates
manually would be difficult - during a meeting there will often be
multiple uploads 
in one day, and it is usually updated every couple of days. (there have
been about 700 updates so far over the lifetime of the process). And the
URL would keep changing. Having a fixed url, with no read-access
restrictions for the document considerably helps the work of this large
and active committee.

Although this particular requirement could no doubt be met with some
effort, there may well be something else further down the road where a
blanket prohibition on off-oasis documents would 
make work more diffcult.

I'd suggest the paragraph has something like "normally", or an exception
clause. This should 
state that the information must be public.


Peter

ps: if the purpose is to ensure that committee documents are publically
accessible, one could point out that the OASIS document pages are
themselves in violation of the intended rules since they allow for
non-public documents, and indeed the default is committee only.
 
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Peter Furniss
Chief Scientist, Choreology Ltd
web: http://www.choreology.com
email: peter.furniss@choreology.com
phone: +44 870 739 0066
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