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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution


I think grouping 2 with 30/choreology issues presumes that 2 is about
subprocesses rather than subfunctions. That is still an open issue in the
TC, we should be sensitive to that fact.

	Thanks,

			Yaron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: ygoland@bea.com; Francisco Curbera; Liu, Kevin
> Cc: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
> 
> 
> Just finished the short call.  
> 
> Decision:  We will continue to manually hand off the pen.  
> Will not try
> to rely on any auto merge functionality for concurrent editing.
> 
> Actions:
> 
> 1.  Sid will take the pen and work on Issue 32.
> 2.  Paco will then take the pen and work on 7, 39, 46
> 3.  We look to Kevin to follow up on the reopened issue 44
> 
> There was also some discussion regarding the issues call this morning
> and the idea of attacking the group of issues relating to 
> cross process
> coordination (2, 30, the choreology issues, ..).  Suggestion is to put
> this on the agenda for the TC for next week.
> 
> One more thing I should have mentioned.  As editors I think 
> we are most
> responsible for reviewing each other's work and making suggestions for
> clarity and completeness.  I want to have a review pass done 
> before the
> next Editors' call, assuming all the closed issues get incorporated by
> the time of the TC call next week.  We can then take the next Editors'
> call to discuss feedback.
> 
> Satish
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 9:28 AM
> To: 'Francisco Curbera'; Satish Thatte
> Cc: 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
> 
> As I mentioned in my earlier mail I am traveling every week 
> for the rest
> of
> this month. So I can't do much. In fact I'm typing this mail during a
> meeting which is why I'm not on today's call.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Francisco Curbera [mailto:curbera@us.ibm.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:27 AM
> > To: Satish Thatte
> > Cc: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail);
> > ygoland@bea.com
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Satish,
> >
> > I can go next, if this ok with Yaron. On the other hand, I
> > will not be able
> > oto make it to today's editors call because of a conflicting
> > call. Please
> > let me know what is the final decision.
> >
> > Paco
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       "Satish Thatte"
> >
> >
> >                       <satisht@microsof        To:
> > <ygoland@bea.com>, "Kartha, Neelakantan"
> > <N_Kartha@stercomm.com>, "BPEL Spec
> >                       t.com>                    Editing Group
> > \(E-mail\)" <wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org>
> >
> >                                                cc:
> >
> 
> >                       11/03/2003 01:37         Subject:  RE:
> > [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue
> > 23 Resolution
> >                       AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yaron and Paco,
> >
> > Please decide between yourselves who wants to go first now that I am
> > done for the moment.
> >
> > Satish
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM
> > To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > (E-mail)'
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> > Short Answer: Yes
> >
> > Long Answer: A good question. I have a bunch of edits I need to make
> > over the coming week in order to fully explain multi-start
> > but it seems
> > silly to hold on to the pen. I will make the edits off-line and then
> > edit them back in to whatever version exists when I finish. I don't
> > expect the sections I'm editing to radically change in the
> > next week or
> > two so I'm not too worried about the effort needed to do a
> > manual merge.
> >
> >                          Yaron
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:56 PM
> > > To: ygoland@bea.com; Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > > (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for 
> Version 0.6 -
> > > Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.  Are you handing the pen back?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:16 PM
> > > To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > > (E-mail)'
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for 
> Version 0.6 -
> > > Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > > Done.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:07 PM
> > > > To: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for
> > Version 0.6 -
> > > > Issue 23 Resolution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would add "properly configured" in the following way
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > > to be the
> > > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> > can replace
> > > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > > structure sequential
> > > > processing, may be emulated by a properly configured  flow
> > > > with additional links. The purpose in
> > > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > > is to make it
> > > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > > programs by making
> > > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > > constructs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The reason is to highlight that in cases where a sequence has
> > > > additional links coming into it, getting the behavior to be
> > > > eqwuivalent with a flow can be tricky.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Satish
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > >
> > > > From: Kartha, Neelakantan [mailto:N_Kartha@stercomm.com]
> > > > Sent: Thu 10/23/2003 12:39 PM
> > > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version
> > > > 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Looks good to me.
> > > >
> > > > Kartha
> > > >
> > > > (BTW, sorry I could not make it yesterday--was traveling on
> > > business).
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > > Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6
> > > > - Issue 23
> > > > Resolution
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In playing around with Issue 23 I felt it could use a bit
> > > of editorial
> > > > cleanup. I used the exact text from the resolution in the
> > > > exact position
> > > > specified. My only change to the issue's text was the
> > > > addition of a comma
> > > > and the removal of the last part of the last sentence.
> > > These are just
> > > > editorial changes.
> > > >
> > > > I also added an additional sentence which, while
> > > > non-normative, I felt would
> > > > make the whole situation a lot clearer.
> > > >
> > > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > > to be the
> > > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> > can replace
> > > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > > structure sequential
> > > > processing, may be emulated by a flow with additional links.
> > > > The purpose in
> > > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > > is to make it
> > > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > > programs by making
> > > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > > constructs.
> > > >
> > > >         Any comments before I check this in?
> > > >
> > > >                 Thanks,
> > > >                                 Yaron
> > > >
> > > >
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