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Subject: Fw: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Done with changes mentioned in the last editors confcall

Hi Satish,
On the call yesterday, there was a question as to which version we want the TC to review for approval at the upcoming f2f - we thought on the call that the last one that was uploaded, http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/8750/wsbpel-specification-draft-July-30-2004.html
is the one that includes the resolutions that were passed at the last f2f in June.  We had set as a goal inclusion of these and approval of resulting updated spec for the Sept. f2f (only 3 weeks away).

What do you think?  If it should be the later version, let me know.  I will send an email to the full TC with a reminder to start the review process.  
Regards, Diane
IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards
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----- Forwarded by Diane Jordan/Raleigh/IBM on 09/02/2004 10:59 AM -----
"Satish Thatte" <satisht@microsoft.com>

09/02/2004 01:39 AM

"Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>, "bpel spec" <wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org>
"Prasad Yendluri" <pyendluri@webmethods.com>
RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Done with changes mentioned in the last editors conf call

I believe we should go ahead and upload a new spec draft now for the TC.  Thanks for taking that on again.

From: Alex Yiu [mailto:alex.yiu@oracle.com]
Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:12 PM
bpel spec
Alex Yiu; Prasad Yendluri
[wsbpel-spec-edit] Done with changes mentioned in the last editors conf call


Hi, all editors,

I am done with changes mentioned in the last editors conf call

The first two items are quite easy and trivial.
For the last item, there are quite few places that remained to be finished for Issue 13: in both MS-Word Document and XSD.

For the XSD changes, you can review it from:

In the MS Word spec doc, you can search for "<onAlarm", "<wait", "<expression", "<while".

If you got some time, please review the changes.
Anyhow, I can pass the pen back to the editing group.

Prasad ... regarding to keep a XSD copy in the main MS-Word doc, I am still for this editing process. For small changes (e.g. Issue 146 and 149), manual copying the changes piece-by-piece to the Word doc is still feasible. However, for changes of a bigger scale (e.g. this clean up for Issue 13), it is really quite not-so-easy, tedious and error prone. It took me more than 30 minutes to do file-delta-merge by my hands and eyes. I think if we get another round of bigger changes (which are quite likely given the abstract BPEL situation), then we really should use copy and paste the whole XSD into the MS-Word doc appendix in one shot in that case.  IMHO, when delta is large, doing a piece-by-piece delta-merging with MS-Word is not so feasible. And, MS-Word changes-tracking feature does not apply that well to source code changes. The final result is actually not that readable visually. [When Andrew Francis gave us some comments months ago, he mis-read one of BPEL source code examples by one punctuation mark because of this MS-Word changes tracking visual features.]

Just some data points for your consideration.  ...  :-) ... We can discuss it further, if you wish. :-)


Alex Yiu

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