RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] RE: Issue 82.1 - Resolution

[Francisco Curbera <curbera@us.ibm.com>]

I am not sure I understand Charlton's issue with the current wording but I
am ok introducing the new createInstance in 13.4.2 (that also help explain
the need for a new prefix). OTOH, I do think a note in 13.4.3 reminding
people that the requirement to include all startable activities implies in
particular that opaque ones must be annotated with the "template:" version
of the attribute is important. As editors we need to remember that average
spec readers will not have the level of understanding of the issues behind
each design decision that we enjoy.

Paco




                                                                                                                                        
                      "Charlton                                                                                                         
                      Barreto"                 To:       Diane Jordan/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS                                                 
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Hi Diane,



Thanks. I missed that one (having been in transit at the time).



I see Francisco's point about having some more verbiage regarding
template:createInstance, but it is awkward to place it in paragraph 3 of
13.4.3.



It is more appropriate to leave 13.4.3 as follows:



"All start activities MUST be defined in a process of this Template
Profile.
This implies that NO new start activity is allowed to be added during
executable completion (that is, a message inbound activity annotated with a
createInstance="yes" attribute)."



And to add the following to 13.4.2:



"The template:createInstance attribute in the Template Profile is provided
for use with opaque activities."



Best,



-Charlton.

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From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, 13 March 2006 14:41
To: Charlton Barreto
Cc: Charlton Barreto; wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsbpel-spec-edit] RE: Issue 82.1 - Resolution




Charlton,
See this email for an explanation of the editing -
<
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-spec-edit/email/archive
s/200602/msg00045.html>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-spec-edit/email/archives

/200602/msg00045.html
The subject was misleading so you may have missed it.  There were no
replies
to it that I've seen or objections on the calls, but if that doesn't mean
we
can't still fix it if need be.
Regards, Diane
IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709





"Charlton Barreto" <cbarreto@adobe.com>

03/13/2006 05:15 PM


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Reviewing the latest spec in CVS, I saw that the changes for Issue 82.1
were
for the most part incorporated. However, there was one place where I had a
question:

Section 13.4.3, paragraph 3 reads:

"All start activities MUST be defined in a process of this Template
Profile.
This implies that NO new start activity (that is a message inbound activity
annotated with a createInstance="yes" attribute) is allowed to be added
during executable completion. The Template Profile introduces a new
"template"createInstance" attributed for use with opaque activities, since
the standard "createInstance" attribute defined in the common abstract
process schema is not allowed on opaque activities."

Why was the second sentence ("The Template Profile introduces..") added? It
is redundant since we've already covered this concept earlier in Section
13.4.

The paragraph should read (conforming to our accepted resolution of Issue
82.1):

"All start activities MUST be defined in a process of this Template
Profile.
This implies that NO new start activity is allowed to be added during
executable completion (that is, a message inbound activity annotated with a
createInstance="yes" attribute).

Best,

-Charlton.
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Adobe Systems Incorporated
+1 (408) 536-4496 p
cbarreto@adobe.com



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From: Charlton Barreto
Sent: Wednesday, 15 February 2006 14:54
To: 'wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: Issue 82.1 - Resolution

Attached is a zip archive (change the extension to .zip to expand) of the
spec text, based on a clean snapshot of the latest draft, containing my
approved resolution for Issue 82.1 with Rania's amendment.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

-Charlton.
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Charlton Barreto
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