From: Diane Jordan
[mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006
11:28 AM
To: Marin, Mike
Cc: Marin, Mike;
sallystamand@yahoo.com; wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit]
member list in spec
You are right - the member lists Sally worked from were
this year's. To get the comprehensive member list including those who
were members starting back in 2003, we need to get history. I've asked
and OASIS has no way to give us cumulative information. I asked if they
could at least collect all the names from the attendance records, but that was
right before the email outage so I know the priority is low.
Please
go ahead and put the names of the editors who are not current members on the
second list of previous members.
For
the historic info, I actually have spreadsheets for most of the 2004-now
timeframe. I "just" need to sort and merge them. For
2003, I suspect I need to get the data from the attendance records on the web
site and extrapolate on which people became members. Let me know if you
have other ideas or want to spend some time attempting it.
Thanks.
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
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"Marin, Mike"
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Another issue with the draft list of members in the spread
sheet is that some editors are not included the members list. It seems to me
that list has too many errors. It will be easier to use few OASIS membership
lists (at least two per year starting in 2003 – that will give us eight
lists). Then we can remove the observers and merge those lists into a single
list. I’m willing to do it, if I get the lists from OASIS (so far we only
have two from 2006).
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Regards,
Mike Marin
From: Marin, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:16 AM
To: Diane Jordan; wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org;
sallystamand@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] member list in spec
Diane,
Few comments and/or questions:
1- Checking the list of editors with the Revision history, it
turns out three people in the revision list are not in the editors list. I will
add them to the editors list (Alejandro Guízar, Mark Ford, and Rania Khalaf).
2- In the spread sheet the draft page, contains several
people that have never been members (they were or are observers). To implement
the motion, we will need at least few more rosters from the beginning of the
working group. I still not clear what to do in here.
3- Following the template, I will move the Notices section
before the table of content.
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Regards,
Mike Marin
From: Diane Jordan
[mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 5:41 PM
To: wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org; sallystamand@yahoo.com
Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] member list in spec
Hi Mike,
Second question first - the standard faults section should be Appendix A.
On the first question, we passed a motion on who to include in the member list.
(see: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/email/archives/200606/msg00206.html
) Here it is:
This is the methodology we decided on on today's call for determining inclusion
in Appendix J:.
In the acknowledgement appendix, create 2 sub-sections: 1 listing current
members and voting members, and 2) listing anyone that was a member/voting
member in the past but is no longer (exlude all observers)
This should be effective as of today and including any new members/voting
members
Member affiliation on the ack list will be determined according to the
following:
1 current affilaiton for those still on the roster
2 affiliation shown on the roster at the time they were members for those no
longer on the roster
3 personal request to have affiliation changed
Also, anyone who requests to be removed from this list will be removed.
Sally has started the work of updating hte list of members. Here is the
last email she sent on this with a spreadsheet she put together. I need
to go back and check that we've picked up people who were members earlier and
have left the group/oasis but haven't had time to do that.
Attached is a member list for inclusion in the specification. It reflects the
ground rules outlined in Diane's email of June 28. That date becomes the
dividing line for the 2 sheets 1) current members and 2) membership at some
time in the life of the committee.
I have added people based on emails from Monica & Alex. I have not received
any emails from any one else. However Peter raised the issue of listing
multiple affliations. A decision needs to be made on that, including how many
affliations & what order (current with 1 prior affliation, the affiliation
started with and 1 or more additional ones).
Based on my time on the TC the list has some anomolies in it but I have no
access to records to resolve questions.
Sorry I had to leave the call early. Let me know if there is anything else I
can do.
Sally
Also, if you have the time, could you verify that all the people who have made
updates to the spec per the change log are in the editors list please?
Thanks.
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
"Marin, Mike"
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08/14/2006
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Few other questions:
1- With respect to updating the list of members, I understand that I should
take the list of members from the OASIS wsbpel roster and merge it with the
list in the specification. Is this the correct procedure? And second, should I
use the complete wsbpel roster including observers?
2- The current specification has section that starts with letters (for example:
“A. Standard Faults”). The OASIS template uses the word Appendix in
those cases (for example: “Appendix A. Standard Faults”). Should I
go ahead and do that change?
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Regards,
Mike Marin
From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 6:23 AM
To: wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Mike has the pen
Thanks Mike. Please note the additional comment from Mary that's not
included in action item 62 -
Apparently the Word file has lost its styles (page breaks, running footers,
etc.) Check out the word templates at docs.oasis-open.org/templates/ ... I think
you have the right bits, but the actual style information seems to have been
lost? Let me know if you help and I'll see what I can do.
If the OASIS template doesn't provide enough information, let me know and we
can get back to her for specifics on what they want.
After the call on Wed, we'll have to incorporate the xsd and then circulate to
the committee for approval of the candiate for public review.
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
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"Marin, Mike"
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08/11/2006
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I can take the pen, and do action item 62, starting on Monday afternoon. I can
have the pen for two days until Wednesday afternoon. I should be able to
complete action item 62 and update the member list.
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Regards,
Mike Marin
From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 3:07 PM
To: wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] remaining spec editing work - pen is
idle
Importance: High
Hi
The pen is idle - any volunteers? Other than the xsd and member list to
finish and incorporate, I think we're close to done. I sent the last CD
to Mary at OASIS to have her review it and her comments are below (also see
action item 62 - only open one now!).
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
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Hi Diane,
Apparently the Word file has lost its styles (page breaks, running footers, etc.)
Check out the word templates at docs.oasis-open.org/templates/ ... I think you
have the right bits, but the actual style information seems to have been lost?
Let me know if you help and I'll see what I can do.
m
From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 3:42 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: BPEL almost ready for public review
Thanks Mary - here is the doc file that we're editing:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=19482&wg_abbrev=wsbpel
I'll put you on the agenda for this coming meeting.
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709
"Mary McRae"
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08/11/2006
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Hi Diane,
Thanks for asking :-) Let's do a couple of things.
1. location: let's use a persistent URI such as http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/v2.0/
When it's ready, you upload it to Kavi and send me the link, and I'll upload to
docs.oasis-open.org
2. Status: Please use the template boilerplate text as follows:
This
document was last revised or approved by the WS-BPEL TC on the above date. The
level of approval is also listed above. Check the current location noted above
for possible later revisions of this document. This document is updated
periodically on no particular schedule.
Technical
Committee members should send comments on this specification to the Technical
Committee’s email list. Others should send comments to the Technical
Committee by using the “Send A Comment” button on the Technical
Committee’s web page at www.oasis-open.org/committees/wsbpel.
For
information on whether any patents have been disclosed that may be essential to
implementing this specification, and any offers of patent licensing terms,
please refer to the Intellectual Property Rights section of the Technical
Committee web page ( www.oasis-open.org/committees/wsbpel/ipr.php.)
The
non-normative errata page for this specification is located at www.oasis-open.org/committees/wsbpel.
3. Update the Notices section to match the template
boilerplate:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASIS_Specification_Template_v2-0_Legacy.html -- Notices section
4. Remove section G (this is covered in the Status section)
Is the TC authoring the spec in HTML? If not, I'll need that version as well. I
can't check the running footers in the HTML version.
I should be able to make the meeting on the 16th; I don't think there's any
changes in the process that would impact BPEL going forward. The biggest change
is around new charter intake and specs will be required to be submitted in
XHTML (rather than HTML). Jamie should be getting the new version uploaded in
the next few days.
Regards,
Mary
From: Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:02 AM
To: marypmcrae@gmail.com; tc-admin@oasis-open.org
Cc: James Bryce Clark; Michael Winters; jevdemon@microsoft.com
Subject: BPEL almost ready for public review
Hi Mary,
We've just approved what we think is the public review -1 committee draft:
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/19511/wsbpel-specification-draft-Aug01-2006.htm
Would you please take a look at it and let me know if there are any formatting
issues remaining.
Would it be possible for you to spend an hour with the TC - either as
part of the next call on Aug 16 (8-10am pacific) or on another date - to go
over a few process questions? I understand there are some new process
updates in progress - it would be helpful to have info on any that may effect
specs that are "in flight".
Thanks.
Regards, Diane
IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile:
919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709