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-Ryan</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

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From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma'> Diane Jordan [mailto:drj@us.ibm.com] <b><span
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Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date Month=3D"6" Day=3D"18" =
Year=3D"2003"><font
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday,
 June 18, 2003</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2 =
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To:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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font-family:Tahoma'> Husband, Yin-Leng<b><span =
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Cc:</span></b> Ben Bloch; George Brown; Harvey Reed; Jeff Mischkinsky; =
John
Evdemon; Furniss, Peter; randerson@macgregor.com;
david.burdett@commerceone.com; Ryan Cairns [Openstorm];
peter.furniss@choreology.com; bmalhi@microsoft.com; =
sumeet.malhotra@unisys.com;
gritzinger@novell.com; rol@de.ibm.com; gloria.vargas@reuters.com;
ganesh.vednere@cgey.com&quot;Rajesh Manglani&quot;; =
sallystamand@yahoo.com;
sazi@bea.com; Fletcher, Tony; wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org; Yaron Y. =
Goland;
Husband, Yin-Leng</span></font> <br>
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Am resending to include all the folks who've expressed interest in the
issues/requirements process.</span></font> <font size=3D2 =
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I'd like to have a call on the issues/requirements process - &nbsp;I =
think the
best timing to keep us within reasonable hours for all time zones is =
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> eastern - let me know if =
you can
participate. &nbsp;</span></font> <font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span
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Thanks.</span></font> <font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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Regards, Diane<br>
IBM &nbsp;Dynamic e-business Technologies<br>
drj@us.ibm.com<br>
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font =
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919-624-5123</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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  &lt;yin-leng.husband@hp.com&gt;</span></font></b> <o:p></o:p></p>
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  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Husband,
  Yin-Leng&quot; &lt;yin-leng.husband@hp.com&gt;, &quot;Jeff =
Mischkinsky&quot;
  &lt;jeff.mischkinsky@oracle.com&gt;, &quot;Yaron Y. Goland&quot;
  &lt;ygoland@bea.com&gt;, &quot;Dieter Roller&quot; =
&lt;ROL@de.ibm.com&gt;, &quot;Furniss,
  Peter&quot; &lt;Peter.Furniss@choreology.com&gt;</span></font> <font =
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  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Diane =
Jordan/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS,
  &lt;wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org&gt;, &quot;John Evdemon&quot;
  &lt;jevdemon@microsoft.com&gt;, &quot;Fletcher, Tony&quot;
  &lt;Tony.Fletcher@choreology.com&gt;, &quot;Ben Bloch&quot;
  &lt;ben_b54@hotmail.com&gt;, &quot;Harvey Reed&quot; =
&lt;hreed@sonicsoftware.com&gt;,
  &quot;George Brown&quot; &lt;george.w.brown@intel.com&gt;, =
&quot;Rajesh
  Manglani&quot; &lt;rmanglani@uc-council.org&gt;, &lt;sazi@bea.com&gt;,
  &lt;sallystamand@yahoo.com&gt;</span></font> <font size=3D1 =
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  &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From Use Case
  sub-group - Linking of Issues and Requirements back to use =
cases</span></font>
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Hi Jeff &amp; the Issues and Requirements sub-group,<br>
<br>
Also from the Use Case sub-group telcon, I took an action to liaise =
with<br>
your group regarding synchronising the process of collecting<br>
requirements.<br>
<br>
In the telcon, I pointed out that the example use case looked more =
like<br>
a requirement description to me. &nbsp;The group discussed that the =
purpose<br>
of collecting use cases is to harvest requirements so our group would =
be<br>
processing use case submissions and turning them into requirements =
for<br>
accepted instances.<br>
<br>
So we either need to have a common requirements collection process =
for<br>
both groups, or have only one group handle requirements collection =
but<br>
formulate how and which group derive requirements from use cases.<br>
<br>
There may be an additional need to define what constitues a use case<br>
submission, and what constitues a requirements submission.<br>
<br>
Jeff, is it easier for us to have a call to discuss?<br>
<br>
Yin Leng<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Fletcher, Tony [mailto:Tony.Fletcher@choreology.com] <br>
Sent: </span></font><st1:date Month=3D"6" Day=3D"18" Year=3D"2003"><font =
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 18 June 2003</span></font></st1:date><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier =
New"><span
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To: Jeff Mischkinsky; Yaron Y. Goland; Dieter Roller; Furniss, =
Peter</span></font>
<br>
<font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Cc:
Diane Jordan; wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org; John Evdemon; Ben<br>
Bloch; Harvey Reed; George Brown; Rajesh Manglani; sazi@bea.com;<br>
sallystamand@yahoo.com; Husband, Yin-Leng<br>
Subject: From Use Case sub-group - Linking of Issues and =
Requirements<br>
back to use cases<br>
<br>
Dear Jeff - and others on the WSBPEL Requirements and Issues =
sub-groups,<br>
<br>
Firstly, this message probably has not gone to all the members of =
the<br>
Requirements and Issues sub-groups - Jeff could you pass on if<br>
necessary.<br>
<br>
Secondly - for information - a Use case sub-group mailing list has =
now<br>
been set up. &nbsp;Members of the Use case sub-group should receive this =
mail<br>
twice, once directly and once via this new list. &nbsp;If it works we =
can<br>
just use the list in future for mails to the Use case =
sub-group.</span></font> <font
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<br>
The WSBPEL Use case sub-group had its first Telecon yesterday under =
the<br>
chairmanship of John (Evdemon). &nbsp;I had an action to write this mail =
to<br>
the Issues and Requirements sub-groups.<br>
<br>
I made the point that Use cases may well (/should) give rise to one, =
or<br>
more, issues and / or requirements (where we understand that an issue =
is<br>
a potential 'problem' that has been raised that the TC has not yet<br>
resolved whether to tackle and if so how to tackle - resolved issues<br>
will include this determination, whereas a requirement, when agreed, =
is<br>
something the TC has agreed needs to be addressed somehow in the<br>
specification.<br>
<br>
Likewise, each issue and requirement should be supported by one, or<br>
more, use cases.<br>
<br>
We therefore see a need for linking use cases to issues and<br>
requirements, and vice versa. &nbsp;We hope you will agree with =
this.<br>
<br>
You should receive other messages from the use case group on the<br>
procedures we currently intend to use. &nbsp;We would like to correlate =
these<br>
with your procedures, particularly so we can work out the cross =
linking<br>
at the appropriate juncture.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best Regards &nbsp; &nbsp; Tony<br>
A M Fletcher<br>
<br>
Cohesions 1.0 (TM)<br>
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