RE: [wsbpel-uc] Conf Call today at 4 PM ET / 1 PM PT

["Sazi Temel" <sazi@bea.com>]

I think we should also include some usage scenarios that is not limited to the BPEL as language only. The following case (originally from Yaron Goland) explains what I mean.

Portable Execution or Portable Source?
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- User A writes a BPEL using their favorite tool Tool_A
- User A uses a typical programming construct not provided in BPEL like for-each or if-then or until
- Tool A translates the programming construct into a form supported by BPEL
- User A hands their BPEL to User B to edit.
- User B tries to edit the BPEL using their favorite tool, Tool_B
- User B is confused because a lot of the BPEL code looks weird, what has happened is that Tool_B doesn't encode the programming constructs the same way Tool_A has so Tool_B can't represent the constructs in their higher level semantic (e.g. as a for-each) and instead has to show a ton of strange BPEL code with counters and lots of fancy XPATHs etc.

The purpose of this usage scenario is to explore whether the purpose of BPEL is to provide portable execution or portable human readable source code. At this time, without going into detail, I will only mention that there are different implications for BPEL depending on the answer [ a) provide portable execution, b) provide portable source code or c) both ]
 
Regards,
.Sazi


-----Original Message-----
From: Monica Martin [mailto:monica.martin@sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:35 AM
To: John Evdemon
Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Conf Call today at 4 PM ET / 1 PM PT


John Evdemon wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>This is a quick reminder about our conf call today at 4 PM ET / 1 PM PT.
>
>Here is the call-in information:
>
>Toll-Free (US and Canada): +1 866 500 6738
>Toll: +1 203 480 8000
>Passcode: 600345
>
>Here is a quick agenda for today's discussion:
>
>1. Discussion of Sally's template (UC Template is attached - the website
>appears to still be down)
>  
>
mm1: I have provided comments to Sally.

>2. Usage scenario guidelines and catalogue (see attached docs from
>Harvey)
>
>3. Discussion/selection of initial usage scenario - I would like us to
>prep a nomination to the TC
>  
>
mm1:  On items #2 and #3, the catalog appears to largely concentrate on 
B2B.  Should we not approach this from a broader scope that also 
includes the enterprise, as we develop the usage scenarios and use 
cases?  In addition, the addition of legal entity language seems 
premature, as we have acknowledge this is possibly an area outside of 
the scope of BPEL.