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Subject: FW: [wsbpel-uc] FollowUp on F2F
Forwarding to the UC subgroup (I forgot to CC the list!) JohnE > -----Original Message----- > From: John Evdemon > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:51 AM > To: 'Sally St. Amand' > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] FollowUp on F2F > > I will summarize the presentation and reaction at the > beginning of today's call. Thanks for the recommendation! > > I blocked out time at the beginning of the call to discuss the > catalogue and template - I would like you to walk us thru the > template at that time. > > I agree that the Supply Chain is not a use case - it is one of > many possible usage scenarios - each of which could break down > into one or more use cases. Am I mixing up the semantics (use > case vs. scenario)? > > I agree that we should solicit examples/previous work, but we > will still have to build out a BPEL representation (or do you > see this as being outside of the scope of the use case > group?). > > I tried to speak to Ram's need for a use case (Issue 43) in > the context of vendor managed inventory. I would like to get > a few champions/volunteers to review he issues list and > determine which issues (if any) would benefit by mapping to > one or more use cases. > > > In my view simpl-eb is not a use case in that it is not > > delineating a business activity. It is a business process > > whose intent is to facilitate a business activity (i.e. > > trade). Since BPEL's objective is to provide > interoperability > > among business activities, the business perspective has to > be > > the driver. Simple-eb is a standards approach to facilitate > > trade. > > Simpl-eb can be used re-used to assemble larger use cases - I > was trying to avoid "boiling the ocean" by taking on too > difficult a scenario. Since Simpl-eb represents the lowest > common denominator for e-biz, imho it makes sense to start > here and build up to more complex scenarios. Should the group > be focusing on exercising the spec or illustrating BPEL's > application in real-world scenarios (many businesses do, in > fact, implement Simpl-eb)? Perhaps I am misunderstanding your > point about a "delineating a business activity"? > > Can you walk us through this on today's call: > > The Description Section of the template is intended to > present > > the use case in sufficient detail to convey understanding. > The > > items listed are what may be needed to capture a good > > description, not a checklist. Use cases from business > > personnel could be discouraged or misunderstood with the > > inclusion of specific technical requirements. > > > > It will probably be necessary for someone, most likely from > > the subgroup, to work with use case submitters to > > develop/define the technical issues. The emphasis has to be > on > > a real business process that is a real world economic > > activity. > > I totally agree - this is, again, why I thought Simpl-eb could > provide a starting point for us. > > I look forward to discussing this in greater detail on today's > call. Thanks again for the feedback! > > JohnE
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