RE: [wsbpel-uc] Suggestion: Drop the "Visibility into SOAP Headers" suggestion

["Frank Ryan" <frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com>]

Monica,

I agree that a process may care deeply about anything associated with a
message.  The biggest hurdle that I see is the fact that BPEL acts on
messages as defined by a WSDL and WSDL does not take into account
message attachments.  Therefore the thought of the group is that this is
a binding issue and can not be described in a bpel file and that is the
reason that the group thought that it was better left out of the use
case group and I feel would be better addressed by the implementation
subgroup with a statement of direction/best practice for this subject.

Frank 

-----Original Message-----
From: Monica J. Martin [mailto:Monica.Martin@Sun.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:46 AM
To: John Evdemon
Cc: saskary@nuperus.com; wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Suggestion: Drop the "Visibility into SOAP
Headers" suggestion


John Evdemon wrote:

>Sid,
>
>On today's Use Case conf call [1], it was suggested that we drop your 
>suggestion called "visibility into SOAP headers".
>If I recall, your original suggestion dealt with a variety of topics
but
>drilled into attachments.  
>You even offered a simple use case regarding healthcare and large
>attachments [2].   
>
>Since business processes do not typically care about how an artifact is
>attached to a message, this is probably out of scope for us.   
>The participants on today's call seemed to agree with this fact and 
>thought we should drop this potential scenario.
>  
>
mm1: Actually, in the logical sense, a business process may care about 
an artifact being attached to a message. Perhaps as I suggested on the 
previous use case, you should pend for more near-term cases.  If the 
processing affects the status of the business process, would we not care

about it?

>Please reply if you have any questions, concerns or objections.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>John
>
>[1] 
>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/download.php/453
>0
>/2003-12-15%20Meeting%20Minutes.PDF
>[2]
>http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/download.php/452
5
>/2003-12-01%20Meeting%20Minutes.pdf 
>
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