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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
John, OK - I have a use case template - so I'll type the details into that later this week and post it for comment/review. I'll share that with you before hand so you can catch anything I've missed or needs re-jigged. BTW - I've completely lost track of time and space here (been out sick for a couple of days) - when is the next UC SC meeting scheduled now? Thanks, DW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion David, The IV&V scenario would be great. Please let me know if you need any assistance on this. John > -----Original Message----- > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:45 AM > To: BPEL UC list > Subject: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for > Discussion > > John, > > It suddenly hit me like a thunderbolt - duh! > > We need to add this use case as a BPEL use case, and develop > the WSDL > and BPEL example of the interaction with CAM. > > Does anyone have a transaction they want built as an example > here? > > I can easily pick one I have - like the CAM template for the > IV&I BOD > and then the BPEL can query the warehouse subsystem to get the > actual parts on hand data that then gets built out into the > IV&I parts > availability transaction format by the CAM template. > > Thanks, DW. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> > To: <ygoland@bea.com>; <edwink@collaxa.com> > Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Danny van der Rijn" > <dannyv@tibco.com>; "Wsbpel@Lists. Oasis-Open. Org (E-mail)" > <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > > Yaron, > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > As for companion languages, for a companion language to > BPEL to be > > > useful it must be able to see and manipulate BPEL > variables. So it seems > > > reasonable to expect to be able to drop down into the > companion > > > language, manipulate the BPEL variables using the > companion language's > > > XML manipulation facilities and then pop back up into > BPEL. > > > > > > > This is EXACTLY what I'm seeing CAM can do for you - and YES > it > > is heavily typed. However I need a mechanism to pass the > BPEL variables > > back and forth. > > > > So in "PPT BPEL" - I'm seeing calling CAM as a webservice > via a WSDL > > binding - passing it the content of the variable area that > is the input, > and > > then getting back another variable area that is the result > as a BPEL style > > reply works right now. You also pass CAM the template > pointer that > > contains all the rules and manipulation that you want to > occur (that's > > what the OASIS CAM spec' details - and of course the > templates are > > all in XML). In my PPT BPEL - this just looks like another > step > > that the BPEL engine can execute - and it calls the CAM > processor > > in the same way it interacts with another WSDL driven step > today. > > > > CAM BTW has full fault handling built-in - so it can message > and error > > however you need. And the specification is about to be to > public > > review status in OASIS next week (vote pending) - so we > should beat > > the release date here of BPEL itself handily ; -) > > > > There's a brochure on CAM available in Kavi from the CAM TC > area > > to give you the 30,000' intro' too. > > > > Thanks, DW. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > the roster of > the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis- > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/members/leave_workgroup.php > . > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis- > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel- > uc/members/leave_workgroup.php. To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/members/leave_workgroup.php.
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