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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion


John,

OK - I have a use case template - so I'll type the details into that
later this week and post it for comment/review.   I'll share
that with you before hand so you can catch anything I've missed
or needs re-jigged.

BTW - I've completely lost track of time and space here (been
out sick for a couple of days) - when is the next UC SC meeting
scheduled now?

Thanks, DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com>
To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion


David,

The IV&V scenario would be great.  Please let me know if you need any
assistance on this.

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: BPEL UC list
> Subject: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for
> Discussion
>
> John,
>
> It suddenly hit me like a thunderbolt - duh!
>
> We need to add this use case as a BPEL use case, and develop
> the WSDL
> and BPEL example of the interaction with CAM.
>
> Does anyone have a transaction they want built as an example
> here?
>
> I can easily pick one I have - like the CAM template for the
> IV&I BOD
> and then the BPEL can query the warehouse subsystem to get the
> actual parts on hand data that then gets built out into the
> IV&I parts
> availability transaction format by the CAM template.
>
> Thanks, DW.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> To: <ygoland@bea.com>; <edwink@collaxa.com>
> Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Danny van der Rijn"
> <dannyv@tibco.com>; "Wsbpel@Lists. Oasis-Open. Org (E-mail)"
> <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
>
>
> > Yaron,
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > As for companion languages, for a companion language to
> BPEL to be
> > > useful it must be able to see and manipulate BPEL
> variables. So it seems
> > > reasonable to expect to be able to drop down into the
> companion
> > > language, manipulate the BPEL variables using the
> companion language's
> > > XML manipulation facilities and then pop back up into
> BPEL.
> > >
> >
> > This is EXACTLY what I'm seeing CAM can do for you - and YES
> it
> > is heavily typed.  However I need a mechanism to pass the
> BPEL variables
> > back and forth.
> >
> > So in "PPT BPEL" - I'm seeing calling CAM as a webservice
> via a WSDL
> > binding - passing it the content of the variable area that
> is the input,
> and
> > then getting back another variable area that is the result
> as a BPEL style
> > reply works right now.  You also pass CAM the template
> pointer that
> > contains all the rules and manipulation that you want to
> occur  (that's
> > what the OASIS CAM spec' details - and of course the
> templates are
> > all in XML).   In my PPT BPEL - this just looks like another
> step
> > that the BPEL engine can execute - and it calls the CAM
> processor
> > in the same way it interacts with another WSDL driven step
> today.
> >
> > CAM BTW has full fault handling built-in - so it can message
> and error
> > however you need.  And the specification is about to be to
> public
> > review status in OASIS next week (vote pending) - so we
> should beat
> > the release date here of BPEL itself handily ; -)
> >
> > There's a brochure on CAM available in Kavi from the CAM TC
> area
> > to give you the 30,000' intro' too.
> >
> > Thanks, DW.
> >
> >
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