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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
David, Thanks for the clarification I thought it was just something I had overlooked. Would it be possible to get the BPEL and WSDL files for the group. We can see if they are extensible to any of the use cases we are developing. At this point I am not really interested in the tool but the samples maybe beneficial to the group. Let us know if that is possible. On another note. I did download the stockcheck bpel you referenced in one of your previous emails and found that the bpel file is invalid. I am not sure if I was meant to download that still or if it was an earlier version. Let me know if you want some details and I'll follow-up independent of the mailing list. Frank -----Original Message----- From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:16 PM To: Frank Ryan Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion Frank, Sorry - its been one of those crazy days so far. They actually ship with the current release of VisualScript V2.0 - and you can download the 30 day eval' from: http://www.visualscript.com Once you've installed it - in the Create New dialogue, click on BPEL, then click the 'View Examples' button - and you will see the 4 listed there. Pick one - and when it opens, select the "Generate" icon on the tool bar - and it will build both the WSDL and the BPEL. You can of course manipulate the model, the XML it generates, add your own flavours, and so forth from there. We also have an open offer for members of the TC/SC to have a full-up license to help faciltiate the TCs work. So if you'd like same - I can put you in touch with Tim at Smartdraw to arrange that for you. Thanks, DW. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ryan" <frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com> To: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info> Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > David, > > I am not sure what the 4 VisualScripts are and where they might be > located? I scanned my email list have not seen any mention of them. > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:53 PM > To: John Evdemon > Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > John, > > OK - yes - that works for me. > > Good. > > We also need to discuss the VisualScript models and testing those. > Has anyone with a BPEL engine tested the 4 use case WSDL and BPEL > syntax? (That's what the 4 VisualScripts contain right now). > > Thanks, DW > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> > Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:45 PM > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > Alternate Tuesdays (weeks when we do not have a TC call) at 4 PM ET. > > Call in info is below: > Toll-Free (US and Canada): +1 866 500 6738 > Toll: +1 203 480 8000 > Passcode: 600345 > > I hope you can make next week's call. Please let me know if you'll > need any assistance. > > Thanks for your interest! > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:13 AM > > To: John Evdemon > > Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org > > Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > > John, > > > > OK - I have a use case template - so I'll type the details into that > > later this week and post it for comment/review. I'll share > > that with you before hand so you can catch anything I've missed > > or needs re-jigged. > > > > BTW - I've completely lost track of time and space here (been out > > sick > > > for a couple of days) - when is the next UC SC meeting scheduled > > now? > > > > Thanks, DW. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com> > > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> > > Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:18 PM > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > > > > David, > > > > The IV&V scenario would be great. Please let me know if you need > > any assistance on this. > > > > John > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info] > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:45 AM > > > To: BPEL UC list > > > Subject: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > > > > John, > > > > > > It suddenly hit me like a thunderbolt - duh! > > > > > > We need to add this use case as a BPEL use case, and develop the > > > WSDL and BPEL example of the interaction with CAM. > > > > > > Does anyone have a transaction they want built as an example here? > > > > > > I can easily pick one I have - like the CAM template for the IV&I > > > BOD and then the BPEL can query the warehouse subsystem to get > > the > > > actual parts on hand data that then gets built out into the IV&I > > > parts availability transaction format by the CAM template. > > > > > > Thanks, DW. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info> > > > To: <ygoland@bea.com>; <edwink@collaxa.com> > > > Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Danny van der Rijn" > > > <dannyv@tibco.com>; "Wsbpel@Lists. Oasis-Open. Org (E-mail)" > > > <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org> > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:34 PM > > > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion > > > > > > > > > > Yaron, > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > As for companion languages, for a companion language to > > > BPEL to be > > > > > useful it must be able to see and manipulate BPEL > > > variables. So it seems > > > > > reasonable to expect to be able to drop down into the > > > companion > > > > > language, manipulate the BPEL variables using the > > > companion language's > > > > > XML manipulation facilities and then pop back up into > > > BPEL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is EXACTLY what I'm seeing CAM can do for you - and > > YES > > > it > > > > is heavily typed. However I need a mechanism to pass the > > > BPEL variables > > > > back and forth. > > > > > > > > So in "PPT BPEL" - I'm seeing calling CAM as a webservice > > > via a WSDL > > > > binding - passing it the content of the variable area that > > > is the input, > > > and > > > > then getting back another variable area that is the result > > > as a BPEL style > > > > reply works right now. You also pass CAM the template > > > pointer that > > > > contains all the rules and manipulation that you want to > > > occur (that's > > > > what the OASIS CAM spec' details - and of course the > > > templates are > > > > all in XML). In my PPT BPEL - this just looks like > > another > > > step > > > > that the BPEL engine can execute - and it calls the CAM > > > processor > > > > in the same way it interacts with another WSDL driven step > > > today. > > > > > > > > CAM BTW has full fault handling built-in - so it can > > message > > > and error > > > > however you need. And the specification is about to be to > > > public > > > > review status in OASIS next week (vote pending) - so we > > > should beat > > > > the release date here of BPEL itself handily ; -) > > > > > > > > There's a brochure on CAM available in Kavi from the CAM > > TC > > > area > > > > to give you the 30,000' intro' too. > > > > > > > > Thanks, DW. > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > > > the roster of > > > the OASIS TC), go to > > > http://www.oasis- > > > > > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/members/leave_workgroup.php > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from > > the > > > roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis- > > > open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel- > > > uc/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the > > roster of the OASIS TC), go to > > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel- > > uc/members/leave_workgroup.php. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > of the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/members/leave_wor > kgroup.php. > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > of the OASIS TC), go to > http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/members/leave_w > or > kgroup.php. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster > of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/members/leave_wor kgroup.php. > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list (and be removed from the roster of the OASIS TC), go to http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/members/leave_wor kgroup.php.
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