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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] A Topic for the F2F?


David,

And this comes right back to what I was saying a week and change ago.

Sure we have a spec' - but that is all. 

The VITALLY important first step has been completely glossed over.

Defining the focus, audience, goals, deliverables - and all that goes
into a successful project.

This is basic 101 project stuff.

Until that is all precisely defined and agreed to - much wheel
spinning and gear shifting will be in evidence.

Obviously one hopes that the F2F can begin to address this.

Business objectives comes before technical spec's.  Oh, yeah,
and trying to do the reverse - looking at the technical spec', and
then reverse engineering the business objectives - yeah that's
not a very smart agenda either.

Painful as this may seem - ignoring the spec' completely - and
just figuring out the business goals here - then going back - 
and tossing out or including the technology as appropriate - 
is the right approach.

You may even get to the nine month deadline faster based on
that - instead of saying - the technical spec' is sacrosanct - all
hail the might technical spec' - it is perfection incarnate, and
its pureness cannot be tinkered with - cause else we won't
have time to test it.

I seem to remember we did just fine in ebXML.   

Lessons learned.

DW.
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Message text written by "Burdett, David"
>As far as including the Visual Binding extensions in BPEL natively is
concerned I think we can actually separate the work into two parts:
1. Identify WHAT additional information needs to be held to identify the
graphical information, and
2. Design HOW to represent that information. At this point we can choose to
include it within the BPEL language or have a separate language. We can
also
decide whether it goes in the same spec e.g. in an Appendix or in a
separate
spec.
 
The point is that we do not have to decide immediately HOW to specify it.
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