Re: [wsbpel] implicite links of the runtime engine (was: Implicit<sequence> macro)

[Assaf Arkin <arkin@intalio.com>]

David RR Webber - XML ebusiness wrote:

> Assaf,
>
>I disagree strongly.
>
>History has shown us that these messaging layers are like
>tides.  Last year that, this year this, next year another.
>
>As a BPM engine - you specifically want to be neutral and
>agnostic to the messaging layer, and certainly not dependent.  
>
>  
>
Indeed. Which is precisely what I want to use WSDL.

I don't want to care about the differences between using SOAP or plain 
HTTP, synchronous or asynchronous, etc. I want some protocol independent 
way to define the messaing model, so I can plug any number of different 
protocol handlers, whether I write them, buy them, or let the customer 
install them. WSDL gives me exactly that level of abstraction and it 
works with a variety of tools that support a variety of protocols.

So as a BPM vendor who has to support a million and one different 
protocols and means of communication, WSDL is definitely my preferred 
choice.

arkin

>Why are we trying to sell WSDL?  What's their problem?
>I think we have enough of our own - without taking on their's
>too!!!
>
>And what about all the vendors of good BPM solutions today
>that you would like to provide BPEL implementations?  They
>have their own messaging layers in installed systems that
>are working - they will want to use those in situ.
>
>DW.
>
>p.s. Is WSDL an OASIS standard BTW? 
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