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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!


Can you elaborate? I don't the connection.

-maciej

On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:56:51 -0800, Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com> 
wrote:

> even so, if we add the ability to have assign create new nodes (issue 
> 11),
> then this syntax wouldn't work.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maciej Szefler" <mbs@fivesight.com>
> To: "Danny van der Rijn" <dannyv@tibco.com>; "wsbpeltc"
> <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
>
>
>> This might not be a problem if it were possible to define copy 
>> assignment
>> in terms of node-replacement operations;  then any expression that 
>> returns
>> a node could act as an l-value to an assignment. Such a scheme could 
>> rely
>> exclusively on schema-based type checking (with an implied schema for
>> message variables).
>> -maciej
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:12:04 -0800, Danny van der Rijn 
>> <dannyv@tibco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > i wouldn't think so, since $var refers to the value, not the location.
>> > but
>> > being just a mere mortal, i am open to being corrected.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Satish Thatte" <satisht@microsoft.com>
>> > To: "Maciej Szefler" <mbs@fivesight.com>; "Dieter Roller"
>> > <ROL@de.ibm.com>
>> > Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Assaf Arkin" 
>> <arkin@intalio.com>;
>> > "wsbpeltc" <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>; <ygoland@bea.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:52 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
>> >
>> >
>> > I imagine that expression= is as relevant to "to" as to "from" ..
>> >
>> >  -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Maciej Szefler [mailto:mbs@fivesight.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:47 AM
>> > To: Dieter Roller; Satish Thatte
>> > Cc: Alex Yiu; Assaf Arkin; wsbpeltc; ygoland@bea.com
>> > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
>> >
>> > I haven't followed this discussion too closely, but am I correct in
>> > inferring that if these suggestion were adopted, we could eliminate 
>> most
>> >
>> > of the from-specs in the assign activity? Could we normalize 
>> assignment
>> > to
>> > the following
>> >
>> >    <copy>
>> >       <to variable="msgVar"/>
>> >       <from expression="$otherMsgVar"/>
>> >    </copy>
>> >
>> > could be used to assign a message variable.
>> >
>> >    <copy>
>> >       <to variable="simpleTypeVar"/>
>> >       <from expression="$msgVar/msg/simplePart"/>
>> >    </copy>
>> >
>> >    <copy>
>> >       <to variable="simpleTypeVar"/>
>> >       <from expression="$otherSimpleTypeVar"/>
>> >    </copy>
>> >
>> > could be used to assign a simple variable
>> >
>> >    <copy>
>> >       <to variable="elementVar"/>
>> >       <from expression="$msgVar/msg/elementPartType"/>
>> >    </copy>
>> >    <copy>
>> >       <to variable="elementVar"/>
>> >       <from expression="$otherElementVar"/>
>> >    </copy>
>> >
>> > could be used to assign an element variable.
>> >
>> > -maciej
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 07:23:35 +0100, Dieter Roller <ROL@de.ibm.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> dieter
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>              "Satish Thatte"
>> >>              <satisht@microsof
>> >>              t.com>
>> >
>> >> To
>> >>                                        "Assaf Arkin"
>> > <arkin@intalio.com>,
>> >>              03/12/2004 05:14          "Alex Yiu"
>> > <alex.yiu@oracle.com>
>> >>              AM
>> >
>> >> cc
>> >>                                        "wsbpeltc"
>> >>                                        <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>,
>> >>                                        <ygoland@bea.com>
>> >>
>> > Subject
>> >>                                        RE: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good
>> >> Idea!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am having trouble keeping up with this fast moving discussion.  I 
>> am
>> >> hoping that you will reach an agreement and then educate the mere
>> >> mortals among us on what the consensus proposal is ..
>> >>
>> >> Satish
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:59 PM
>> >> To: Alex Yiu
>> >> Cc: wsbpeltc; Satish Thatte; ygoland@bea.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 103 - Good Idea!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> (4)
>> >>> Assaf suggested:
>> >>> In WSDL 2.0,
>> >>> $variable/ns:element[/ns:subElement]
>> >>> In WSDL 1.1,
>> >>> $variable/partName/ns:element
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering whether it make sense to add a WSDL QNAME
>> >>> (ns:wsdlMsgName) like the following for WSDL 1.1:
>> >>>
>> >>> $variable/ns:wsdlMsgName/partName/...
>> >>>
>> >>> then the syntax would be more symmetrically between WSDL 1.1 and 2.0
>> >>> ns:wsdlMsgName => ns:element
>> >>> partname => subElement
>> >>>
>> >>> The BPEL code migration may be easier from WSDL 1.1 to 2.0
>> >>
>> >> If anyone has a good handle on where WSDL 2.0 is heading with their
>> >> message definition, would be great to throw some ideas around. 
>> Ideally
>> >> if you have a WSDL 2.0 interface that's backward compatible with WSDL
>> >> 1.1, you could use the BPEL process with both 1.1 and 2.0 without
>> >> change.
>> >>
>> >> Assaf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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