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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [wsbpel] abstract process strawman]


i'm not sure i like the adjective 'pseudo' here, but yes.  through qnames that are unresolved.  or through properties that are similarly unresolved..

Satish Thatte wrote:
So how do they refer to things like order?  Using pseudo qnames for the
schemas?

-----Original Message-----
From: Danny van der Rijn [mailto:dannyv@tibco.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Satish Thatte
Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [wsbpel] abstract process strawman]

i was hoping that i misunderstood the intent.  i bothered to be so 
detailed so someone could point out the error in my misunderstanding.

as far as a list of features, no i don't have one.  they are just 
omitting what they please and providing what they find to be usefully 
portable.  but a concrete example of that that i do know is that they 
are leaving out specifics of the WSDLs.  "you receive an order here, and

you send a confirmation response."  that's all that you need to know at 
that point.  not what a line item looks like.  not even what an order 
looks like.

Satish Thatte wrote:

  
Danny,

I think your description of the challenge response metaphor for proving
    
conformance represents a misunderstanding of the intent (brute force
search among lots of randomly generated possibilities was not the idea).
Moreover, the templating case is explicitly supported in Rania's paper I
believe.  Rania and I will address that separately.
  
But I am very curious about the specific details your customers would
    
want to omit while still preserving the meaningfulness of the "process
IP" they would be selling.  Do you have a list of features that ought to
be allowed for omission?
  
Satish

________________________________

From: Danny van der Rijn [mailto:dannyv@tibco.com]
Sent: Thu 9/23/2004 8:57 PM
To: rkhalaf@watson.ibm.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org;
    
wsbpel-abstract@lists.oasis-open.org
  
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [wsbpel] abstract process strawman]


you don't see that every day.  i remembered the attachment, but forgot
    
the inline text.
  
the enclosed document is my quick reaction to the abstract presentation
    
from yesterday.
  
-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: 	Re: [wsbpel] abstract process strawman	
Date: 	Thu, 23 Sep 2004 20:52:21 -0700	
From: 	Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com> <mailto:dannyv@tibco.com>
    

  
To: 	rkhalaf@watson.ibm.com	
CC: 	wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org,
    
wsbpel-abstract@lists.oasis-open.org	
  
References: 	41507291.3010200@watson.ibm.com"><41507291.3010200@watson.ibm.com>
    
41507291.3010200@watson.ibm.com"><mailto:41507291.3010200@watson.ibm.com> 	
  


rkhalaf wrote: 

	Hi everyone, 
	
	As promised, here is the abstract process strawman document I
    
have been putting together. This work aspired to define a consistent
view of abstract processes  and their use as the basis for continuted
discussion and concrete proposals/resolutions. 
  
	
	According to the Agenda, tomorrow or Thursday will be when the
    
abstract proc stuff will be discussed. 
  
	
	Regards, 
	Rania 
	
	
	
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