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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue - 166 - Let's try it again






.. the result is 2 (the I in ACID)...

Cheers,

dieter

Dieter Roller
IBM Senior Technical Staff Member (STSM)
IBM Academy of Technology Emeritus
Phone :                 +49-7031-164476
Fax :                    +49-7031-164890
e-mail                   rol@de.ibm.com



                                                                           
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assign counter = 0
flow
  assign counter = counter +1
  assign counter = counter +1

If atomic means infinitesimal, then I would interpret it to mean the two
activities cannot happen concurrently (logically speaking), and the
result is counter = 2.

If atomic means indivisible, then I would interpret it to mean that the
two activities cannot be interspersed, but could occur concurrently, and
the result could be counter = 1.

Assaf


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>>I don't think that the meaning of atomic is ambigous. It means that the
>>assign is executed has the properties of an ACID transaction. Requiring
>>that an assign is executed as the only activity in a process is far too
>>restrictive (and not necessary)...
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>>Cheers,
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>>Problem: The meaning of the term atomic in the BPEL specification's
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>>Proposed Change Of Language: The assign activity is atomic, that is, the
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>>execution, it was the only activity in the process being executed. The
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