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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 236 - Clarification on CorrelationViolation for Outbound Messages
Hi Bernd, Yes, that is intentional. Please reference
resolution of issue 222: ‘instruct the editors to amend the spec to state that a message
cannot be received if it does not match the stated correlation sets, except for the case where the an
<invoke> is on a request/reply operation, and the *reply* fails to match
the correlation. In this case, the reply *is* delivered to the process, and
correlationViolation is thrown.’ Regarding your comment on what ‘BPEL
fault thrown’ means, I agree it is ambiguous right now. However as it
relates to all ‘BPEL system faults’, maybe we should raise this as
a separate issue? Makes sense? Thanks, Alex From: Eckenfels. Bernd
[mailto:B.Eckenfels@seeburger.de] Hello, Well actually yes the issue is about
somthing else, however the change to the appendix looks misleading to me, since
it suggests that in the 2-way-invoke case a response will be received even if a
violation is thrown. Or is this intentional? And also we had a discussion what
"fault thrown" means, and we should state if or if not we want to say
anything about the partner, maybe "if the binding allows
responses/aknowledgement to response-messages, then the BPEL system faul
may/may not be dispatched to the partner" Anyway, I think this is another viewpoint
here: Thrown when the contents of the messages
that are processed in an invoke, receive, or reply activity do not match
specified correlation information. If the fault is in the context of an inbound
message, then the message MUST not be received by the process, the invoke or receive throws a fault to the BPEL
process. If the fault is in the context of an outbound
message, then the message MUST NOT be dispatched OUT by the process. Gruss Bernd From:
Alexandre Alves [mailto:aalves@bea.com] Hi Bernd, Thanks for the feedback! Maybe I was not clear enough or I am
miss-understanding you, but this issue (236) is related to the outbound
messages only and not at all to the incoming reply
(‘in’-constraint) of a request-reply invoke. What might be confusing is that as part of
spec text for this issue, I wanted to update the appendix definition of a
correlationViolation fault and I noticed that as it was it did not completely
reflect the latest change to section 14.3 regarding the incoming reply of a
request-reply invoke, thus I also moved over this explanation to the appendix. In another words, the phrase ‘If
the fault is in the context of an inbound message, then the message MUST not be
received by the process, except in the case of
an invoke activity with a request/reply operation.’ is meant to just
reflect what currently _already_
is specified in section 14.3. Would it help if I change the proposed
text to: Thrown when the contents of the messages that are processed in an
invoke, receive, or reply activity do not match specified correlation
information. If the fault is in the context of an inbound message, then the
message MUST not be received by the process, except in the case of
an invoke activity with a request/reply operation.
If the fault is in the context of an outbound message, then the message MUST
NOT be dispatched OUT by the
process. Thanks, Alex From: Eckenfels. Bernd
[mailto:B.Eckenfels@seeburger.de] Hello Alexandre, just a minor note, i think we had this
already, but since we want to change the wording here: if a reply is received
on a two way invoke, and the reply violates the correlation, then the message
will not be dispatched (this issue) and a correlation violation will be thrown
by the invoke - however, it is not required (but possible?) to be also send to
the web service who originated the response? I also think the below proposed changes to
the appendix are not correct, or do you really want to receive the reply if it
violates the "in"-constraint?
Gruss Bernd From:
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- 236 - Clarification on CorrelationViolation for Outbound Messages
Status: received Specification
does not clarify what happens when a invoke activity fails with
bpws:correlationViolation fault for the out message (i.e. pattern out or
out-in). Is the request actually send out or not? In the
case of the correlationViolation failure for the outbound message, the message
is not dispatched out. - In
section 14.3 Correlation, replace the paragraph:
by:
- In
Appendix A. Standard Faults, replace the paragraph:
by:
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