RE: [wsdm] Groups - Suggestion

[Geoff Bullen <geoff.bullen@webmethods.com>]

One suggestion that I have to try to speed things along a bit given the time
constraints we have ...

While it is obviously important to continue to narrow down the list of
requirements, there are perhaps other things we can be working on
simultaneously.

For example, no matter what requirements we come up with for MOWS, we will
need to define a set of resources we will be managing and a set of
attributes, operations and notifications (to put a JMX slant on the lingo).
So perhaps, in parallel, we could be trying to coming to some agreement as
to:

1) what resources in the web services world actually require management
2) what are the characteristics of those resources that we would like to
manage

As Andrea pointed out (and I agree) I don't think we should be using CIM to
do this early work, just a simple list of the managed resources, their
definition and their characteristics would suffice.  Now I know that any
number of us have models of web services that we are using in one way or
another already, so we given that people are willing to share some or all of
those models in the above simplistic way, we could probably make significant
head way.

Here's Geoff's quick list of web service resources worth managing

Web Service Execution Environment contains
	Web Service Port Types contains
		Web Service Methods (Services?)
	Web Service instances  (running instances of services?)

Maybe we don't need all of those, maybe there are others.
Do we want to model instances?
Maybe I am completely wrong.


If this is not a good idea, then please just hit me over the head with some
large blunt object (such as a piano), and set me on the true and correct
course.

Regards,
Geoff



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WSDM Weekly Conference call has been modified by Heather Kreger
(kreger@us.ibm.com).

Event description:
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Agenda:
Time change for this meeting according to our decision at the F2F. Sorry for
the late calendar update.

Agenda:
1. roll, review of membership and voting status
2. note posting of minutes for review and approval next week.
3. elect a scribe
4. reschedule conference calls for 2 hours
5. summary of F2F progress
6. review of timelines
-Jan 2004 for Committee specification
-Scope of spec – Of and Using
-Timelines 
--Draft specs by Oct to get agreement on for Jan
--Get Requirements DONE and use case identified by July F2F
--Spec outline for July F2F
--Extend mtgs to two hours – vote for new time, next week starting at
8am pst. 
--Modeling input for WS? 1 sample model binding for ws manageability (in
cim? 

7. review of action items
7.1 MOWS – Requirements factoring -Larry, Veena, Heather
7.2 MUWS – Pankaj, Veena, Heather
7.3 Next call: Review categories
7.4 Categorize requ’ts to do, defer, eliminate
7.5 Investigate official liaisons for GGF
7.6 Process for integrating status/specs for timelines

8. review of requirements categories for requirements documents
9. July F2F planning options:
July:  Other meetings to consider
TOG is in Boston anyways on July M, 21-25,
W3C Desc/Arch – July 28-30, 30-1 Toronto
(possible on Arch days 28-30)?
BEA or Sun to host: July 16,17,18 (W-F)?(missing Igor, Fred)
Aug 4-6?  (away from tog dates requiring return trip)


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