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Subject: Re: [wsdm] Terminology in the requirements

Can we use instead the term 'managed entity'?
I suggest this because in discussions the words managed resource and 
managed service caused many folks problems as well.

"M. Homayoun Pourheidari" <homayoun@hp.com>
08/07/2003 05:42 PM
Please respond to homayoun
        To:     "Sedukhin, Igor S" <Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com>
        cc:     wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
        Subject:        Re: [wsdm] Terminology in the requirements

Igor, et. al

Although I agree with your general comment that we don't want to limit 
ourselves to a traditional agent based model, I do not agree with your 
interpretation of what a managed object means.  In fact, the term "managed 
object" is used to generalize on the manageability representation and 
interfaces of a resource that is managed without promoting an agent based 
or agent less model and I don't interpret the use of "managed object" as 
you described it.

Nonetheless, I'm not religious about these things.  


Sedukhin, Igor S wrote:
We have a problem in agreeing to the requirements that state "managed 
object MUST expose <whatever>". It prescribes certain way of doing 
management. These requirements are on the "The software component 
representing or part of the manageable resource responsible for 
interacting with the manager is referred to as the managed object in this 
document. Traditionally, such software is also known as agent." 
We do not want to be limited by defining requirements on management using 
agents as suggested. 
We propose to use more generic phrasing around ALL of such requirements. 
For example, We propose to phrase it as follows "<whatever> MUST be 
provided for a manageable resource". This phrase says WHAT instead of 
implying HOW.
PS. By "we" here I mean CA. And this is a violent objection :). 
-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com) 
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788 

M. Homayoun Pourheidari
Web Services Management Operation
HP OpenView Division

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