RE: [wsdm] Relationships call

[Zhili Zhang <zhili@tibco.com>]

Title: Relationships call



I am interested in "Relationships" topic as there are still many open issues. I will attend next week call if there is one. Here is a follow-up on "relationship scope". Please comments.

 

In F2F discussion of relationship scope issue on Tuesday, HP, TIBCO and few others expressed their need to allow including of  any resource in a relationship. A resource can not be excluded from a relationship simply because it is not WSDM manageable. It can be used in many ways such as displayed in a service map, included in the list of impacted resource for root-cause analysis etc..

 

If we allow any resource in a relationship, then a participant in the relationship is either WSDM manageable or not WSDM manageable (external resource). We are therefore reducing the alternative to two types of participants:

 

A WSDM Manageable Resource participant would be represented as:
<muws:Participant Role='...'>
    <muws:ManageableResource>
       <EPR> . . . </EPR>
       <muws:ResourceId> . . . <muws:ResourceId/>
    </muws:ManageableResource>?
</muws:Participant>

 

All non WSDM Manageable Resource participant would be represented as:
<muws:Participant Role='...'>
    <muws:ExternalResource>
         {xs:any}*
    </muws:ExternalResource>
</muwsParticipant>

 

The xs:any is a property bag that can contain any domain specific things. For a non-manageable web service, an EPR would be used inside the <muws:ExternalRsource> tag.

 

As an alternative, the name "ExternalResource" could be called "NonManageableResource".

 

Thanks

Zhili Zhang

TIBCO Software Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sedukhin, Igor S [mailto:Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 10:20 AM
To: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsdm] Relationships call

Yo, folks! There were only William, Bryan and me on the call. There is no reason to schedule a 2hr call and agree on that at the F2F if we're the only ones interetsted in that topic. We already have agreed among us even before the F2F...

 

So, do we need to continue the 2hr "Relationships" calls on Friday 1-2pm ET? Interested parties, please respond.

-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788

 

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From: Sedukhin, Igor S
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 12:52 PM
To: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsdm] Relationships call

I'll be 10 minutes lates to the call.

Just as a reminder: the call-in number is the same as a regular call.

-- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
-- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788