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Subject: RE: [wsdm] questions about WSDM


Of course, you're right Bob (and somewhat embarrassing that I should not mention it :-) ).  But it is kind of a special operation since it is not an operation that attaches to the manageability endpoint of a Web service but the managed endpoint.  (That gets a bit technical--but you are right that there is GetManageabilityReferences operation that is also defined in the WSDM spec taken as a whole, and not must MUWS.)

Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
Architect, Development
CA Labs / IP&S
603 823-7146
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Natale, Bob [mailto:RNATALE@mitre.org] 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:46 AM
To: Wilson, Kirk D; uswinter@sina.com
Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsdm] questions about WSDM

Hi Kirk,

Concerning your comment in #2 that "WSDM defines only one operation on
its own: QueryRelationshipsByType":  What about the
GetManageabilityReferences operation defined in MOWS (5.1.1.1.1)?

Cheers,
BobN
Principal Engineer, GIG NetOps
Enterprise Services Systems Engineering
www.mitre.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Wilson, Kirk D [mailto:Kirk.Wilson@ca.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:35 AM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsdm] questions about WSDM

Answers to the individual's questions.

1.  WSDM builds on WSRF.  What WSDM adds to WSRF is the notion of
*managing* the resources that are exposed via WSRF.  It addresses how
resources (WS-Resources) should expose their manageability in terms of
a set of capabilities, or ways in which they can be managed, which the
WSDM specification defines.

2.  WSDM uses the base WSRF operations to retrieve/update resource
properties--notice that the WSDM WSDL imports the WSRF WSDL and
references the operations defined in the WSRF WSDL.  WSDM defines only
one operation on its own: QueryRelationshipsByType.  Otherwise WSDM
defines resource properties and events (associated with the
manageability capabilities) above and beyond WSRF.  Notice that WSRF-RP
does not define ANY properties on its own: it just tells you how to
represent whatever properties the resource has, but gives you the
operations for retrieving/updating properties.

3.  Because WSDM is a Web service protocol (defines message exchange
patterns that take place through Web service), the producers and
consumers of these Web services may be widely distributed throughout an
enterprise, throughout a country, etc. 

On behalf of the WSDM team, let me thank you for your interest in WSDM.
I hope these brief answers help.

Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
Architect, Development
CA Labs / IP&S
603 823-7146
 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:56 AM
To: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [wsdm] questions about WSDM

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Subject: questions about WSDM
Date: Friday 01 December 2006 10:50 am
From: "Winter" <uswinter@sina.com>
To: "webmaster" <webmaster@oasis-open.org>

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   Good evening. I am in China. I'm recently reading WSDM-specification
and
have some questions

   1. What's the main difference between WSDM and WSRF?

   2. Since WSRF has already define operations such as getproperty and
setproperty... Does WSDM have its own operations? or on the other hand,
it  just
defines a set of properties?

   3. Why do we call "distributed" Management? I have not tell
"distributed"
 in the content of WSDM.

   Thank you for your attention. I am expecting your reply.






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