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Subject: WSFED TC Minutes, Nov 13 2007 - VER2


Added roll.

 

WSFED TC Minutes, Nov 13 2007

 

Summary of new Action Items:

Hal to open new issue on references to unsubmitted specs (e.g. Mex, RT)

 

1. Call to order/roll call

   

Present:

Status Change

Lost voting Status

Yakov Sverdlov, CA

 

Attendance

 

Hal Lockhart;BEA Systems, Inc.

Denis Pilipchuk;BEA Systems, Inc.

Michael McIntosh;IBM

Anthony Nadalin;IBM

Greg Carpenter;Microsoft Corporation

Marc Goodner;Microsoft Corporation

Chris Kaler;Microsoft Corporation

Arun Nanda;Microsoft Corporation

Don Schmidt;Microsoft Corporation

Norman Brickman;Mitre Corporation*

Abbie Barbir;Nortel

Lloyd Burch;Novell*

Steve Carter;Novell*

Doug Earl;Novell*

Anil Saldhana;Red Hat

Tony Gullotta;SOA Software Inc.

Don Adams;TIBCO Software Inc.

Siddharth Bajaj;VeriSign

 

2. Reading/Approving minutes of last meeting (Oct 30)

http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200711/msg00004.html  

Held approval since VER 2 with roll was just posted

 

3. TC Logistics (10 minutes or less)

No problem with Thanksgiving as no call scheduled next week, regular bi-weekly schedule continues

 

4. Issues list

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsfed/issues/Issues.xml

   

a) Review of action items

  None.

 

b) Issues in Review status

 

  None.

 

   

c) New issues

 

i014: Indicating functionally equivalent service endpoints in Federation Metadata

http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200711/msg00001.html

Don described issue

Pointed out origin of idea from blogosphere discussions to indicate functionally equivalent endpoints, e.g. services run in different physical locations for scalability

Different levels of assurance would be handled by separating the endpoints into different fed metadata

No implied priority, main difference is usually location

Intended to say these are functionally equivalent, conversation needs to be completed with whom you start, there is no implied state between endpoints

How does consumer determine which of the endpoints to choose? Policy?

Client sees endpoint it wants, currently not much provided beyond keys, claims etc., access to additional metadata is then required

Don thinks there is more work in this area

No difference between which you pick

All high assurance would be under one collection, low assurance would be under another collection

Service provider must not mix in the same collection

 

Proposal adopted, status changed to pending

 

d) Active issues

 

i004 - Transitive closure spec dependencies

Analysis, recommendations: http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200710/msg00012.html

 

Question on references to unsubmitted specs

Noted that retaining references to unsubmitted specs can cause problems in OASIS standard ballot or in submission to ITU-T, ISO etc.

Wasn’t attempting to resolve those issues, just checking the references were correct

Are references to unsubmitted specs normative?

Yes, in many cases it is a hard dependency

 

AI Hal to open new issue on references to unsubmitted specs (e.g. Mex, RT)

 

Question on meaning of keep etc. in proposal, looked at reference to 2616 as an example

There is a more up to date reference, 2817, that may obsolete 2616 but recommendation is to keep 2616 for consistency with other specs such as BSP, SX etc.

 

Proposal adopted, status changed to pending

 

i005 - Complex claim data types

In progress

 

i013 - Encoded wresult

In progress

 

 

f) Pending issues

i012 - Editorial changes to Section 2.7 Attributes, Pseudonyms, and IP/STS Services and section 5 Attribute Service

 

 

5. AOB

 

Interop update

Scenarios for phase 1 interop testing covering passive requestors posted

http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsfed/200710/msg00016.html

 

Have not seen comments since posting, reflects discussions with Lloyd and Tony to date

Microsoft will participate, not sure when endpoints will be available but should be soon

 

Past interop has been done by maintaining a private discussion off the main list so people don’t have to post endpoints and results on a public list unless they want to.

Marc volunteered to be on point to add people as they ask to participate to discussion thread.

 

Interested in participating send email to Marc mgoodner@microsoft.com to be

 

6. Adjournment

 

 

 



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