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Subject: RE: [wsfed] Using SAML meta data in WS-Fed


I have reviewed the proposal with some of the authors of the SAML spec to ensure that it complies with both the spirit and the letter of [Samlv2Meta] usage and extensibility.  They have stated that the proposal is correct on both counts.  They believe that the only changes that the SS TC needs to make to [Samlv2Meta] are textual changes in the specification which make it sound more restrictive than the underlying schema actually is.  That is, remove the text that restricts entities and protocols to only SAML.  I have been told by two key authors that they believe these changes can be made simply as errata, which they are willing to support.

 

They do not believe that existing SAML implementations will need to change.  I was told that this will create a significant re-use for sites, such as Shibboleth, that support both WS-Federation and SAML because they will be able to publish all of the metadata for both protocols in a single document.  They project savings for human administrators, as well as the development of common STS software used to publish or consume metadata at partner configuration time.

 

Finally, it appears this is being received as a positive step towards harmonization between the TCs as well as the protocol stacks.

 

--des

 

From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 5:53 AM
To: Lloyd Burch
Cc: wsfed@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsfed] Using SAML meta data in WS-Fed

 

Issue is that I believe there are changes need to SAML if we go the route of using SAML metadata elements, if we don't go the SAML route then its all contained within our TC. I'm not sure using SAML brings more unity as we still have our own elements, its just allows us to use the SAML metatdata elements as wrappers.

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Inactive hide details for "Lloyd Burch" ---08/05/2008 07:16:26 AM---It would seem that if we are to allow grouping of meta data"Lloyd Burch" ---08/05/2008 07:16:26 AM---It would seem that if we are to allow grouping of meta data we will need to make a change whether we use SAML or not. Moving c


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"Lloyd Burch" <lburch@novell.com>


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Date:


08/05/2008 07:16 AM


Subject:


[wsfed] Using SAML meta data in WS-Fed





It would seem that if we are to allow grouping of meta data we will need to make a change whether we use SAML or not.  Moving closer to SAML helps bring more unity between the two specs.



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