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Subject: Re: [wsia-comment] More News
Alan, The point is that, to a much larger extent than one would think, these organizations are not keeping track of each others' working documents. Actually, this is equally or more of a problem within the larger member companies, which have overlapping working units concerned with bits and pieces of the overall web services picture which are not as well coordinated as they would wish, and certainly less well coordinated than the rest of us would like. I'm not especially interested in calling attention to examples because it is an overall condition within the industry and within academia as well. That's the basic point of liaisons, getting these overlapping efforts more aware of each other, so that they actually do keep track of what each other is doing. And there already are conflicts in the making, such as between WSFL and Xlang. These haven't hardened into separate marketplace initiatives to compete for developers, and it would be good if they didn't. As I was investigating the Web Services Interoperability Organization, ws-i.org, I saw many of the same names as are represented in this TC, and a significant few who are not. It makes me wonder... I would be a great deal happier to know that the major public efforts are in synch by design, rather than by watchfulness. Ciao, Rex At 10:34 AM -0500 2/13/02, Graystreak wrote: >Rex > >Nice article pointer. Sums up much of the politics around Web services >these days. > >The article misses much of the point, though. W3C *is* the big >companies. Members set the agenda, populate the working groups, etc. If >there is no working group for WSDL, it is at least in part because >Microsoft, IBM, etc. have not pushed for one, nor provided the resources >for it. So who is to blame here? > >> Resolved: WSIA and OASIS needs to initiate direct liaison with W3C to >> prevent conflict and duplicated efforts. > >Sure. It's certainly nice to have everyone on the same page. But the >more people involved in a standards effort, the more unweildy and slower >the process becomes. I'm not sure what duplication you would prevent by >this method that isn't prevented by each organization keeping track of the >others' working documents. > >-- >--Alan Wexelblat >wex@media.mit.edu http://wex.www.media.mit.edu/people/wex/ >CHI'02 Panels Chair moderator, rec.arts.sf.reviews -- Rex Brooks GeoAddress: 1361-A Addison, Berkeley, CA, 94702 USA, Earth W3Address: http://www.starbourne.com Email: rexb@starbourne.com Tel: 510-849-2309 Fax: By Request
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