WSIA 5/8/2002: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]

[Monica Martin <mmartin@certivo.net>]

Suggest we concentrate on the business requirement and other criteria
that are dissected down, but not to the level of implementation - unless
we choose to bound the functions at the tactical level.
 
As for this requirement:  The key is that the capability exists for the
Producer to establish and bound the connection as stateful.  The
connection state elicits or defines further functions and what the
handshakes are between the Producer and Consumer.  Let's concentrate on
the state and its parameters rather than what binds the connection
(until we get to that point or we choose to define those boundaries).
 
Thoughts?
Monica J. Martin
Program Manager
Drake Certivo, Inc.
208.585.5946
 
Reference E902:
The specification should support both implicit and explicit creation of
a stateful connection between Consumers and Producers.  The Producer
signifies that a connection is stateful by creating and returning a
Handle, an opaque reference for use by the Consumer to refer to the
stateful interaction between an End User and the Producer.


	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Rich Thompson 
	Sent: Mon 5/6/2002 5:22 AM 
	To: Gil Tayar 
	Cc: 'Alan Kropp'; 'wsia@lists.oasis-open.org' 
	Subject: RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]
	
	


	I'm not sure the concept of a Handle should be pushed all the
way back to
	that of an _implementation_ entity, but agree that it is a
solution rather
	than a requirement. I think the only issue with the original
wording is
	what to consistently call the interactions between an instance
of the
	Consumer and an instance of the Producer.
	
	
	
Gil Tayar
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05/05/2002 02:29         Subject:  RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]
AM
A Handle (an idea which I like) is more of an _implementation_ entity,
and
	not necessarily a _requirement_ entity.
	
	My question is - what is wrong with E902?
	
	-----Original Message-----
	From: Alan Kropp [ mailto:akropp@epicentric.com]
	Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 04:49
	To: 'wsia@lists.oasis-open.org'
	Subject: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]
	
	
	E902
	                         The specification should support both
implicit and
	explicit
	creation of a stateful connection between Consumers and
Producers. Means by
	which the Consumer gains access to the stateful connection must
be well
	defined. Debate: SR, GT, SA, AK, RT. Also, E903-4.
	
	I think we can introduce the concept of a Handle:
	
	E902
	The specification should support both implicit and explicit
creation of a
	stateful connection between Consumers and Producers.  The
Producer
	signifies
	that a connection is stateful by creating and returning a
Handle, an opaque
	reference for use by the Consumer to refer to the stateful
interaction
	between an End User and the Producer.
	
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