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Subject: Re: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] 5/14 call minutes
Thanks for the comments .... the joint draft is in a very early stage. Basically what you see is a merger of the concrete proposals brought to the WSIA face to face. The purpose of this merger was not to provide a well-cooked approach, but to provide a basis for which the discussions (several of which you bring up) that need to happen. This past week we did a high level pass through the document so that all would have a sense of the breadth of the draft and noted some general comments along the way for use in future discussions. The plan is to then walk back through the document on a much more detailed level so that the issues can be addressed and consensus reached on what the specification will entail at the June face to face meetings (I understand it will be the focus on June 26). "Timothy N. Jones" To: wsia@lists.oasis-open.org, wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org <tim@crossweave.c cc: om> Subject: Re: [wsia] [wsrp] [wsrp-wsia joint interfaces] 5/14 call minutes 05/15/2002 08:06 PM I have a few comments/questions based on the 5/14 joint draft. I apologize if these have been covered in the subgroup, but time constraints have prevented me from participating in it too, and there has not been much public discussion of the content. 1. Instance handles It seems that these handles are being overloaded to identify both a service instance and the state that the instance is in. Is an instance allowed to be in multiple states at once? If not, shouldn't the state be encapsulated within the producer (i.e., shouldn't the handle refer to instance only)? The description of performAction() says: "This operation may return a new instanceHandle (otherwise, null is returned) to accommodate Web Services that transition from statelessness to statefulness." Is statefulness a dynamic aspect of a service? I have always thought it was static (i.e., a service is either stateful or not). 2. Properties It seems that there is a global set of properties for service instances. Do we want to allow for state-specific properties? The customization group has been discussing inter-property constraints (such as those introduced by XForms). Do we want to include a hook for those here along with the property schema? 3. Optionality, Capabilities, and portTypes What is the motivation for introducing new constructs for WSDL extensibility/optional operations rather than dealing with multiple portTypes per service (as WSXL seems to promote)? 4. Heterogeneity The 5/14 version of the draft spec includes several comments like "If the service provides access to a heterogenous set of objects, this operation may need to take an instanceHandle." Wouldn't each object type want to have it's own binding (e.g., URI)? This leads to a bigger question of whether we want to consider separate set/get operations for each property vs. the current direction of a generic property collection. With the former approach we'd be able to distinguish heterogenous objects through different portTypes. Cheers, Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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