RE: [wsrp][wsia][wsrp-wsia joint interfaces][Draft Spec 0.43]Terminology

[Rich Thompson <richt2@us.ibm.com>]

For me, both ID and Handle indicate an opaque reference ... key would be
the one that raises ideas of persistence (aka database keys). I do agree
that common uses of ID have durations that range from single-use to
persistent. Is this a problem for people? Any other suggestions?



                                                                                                                     
                      "Eilon Reshef"                                                                                 
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Rich,

Wouldn't you tend to think that "ID" hints towards persistence and "Handle"
hints towards transience and not vice-versa?

Eilon
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      Subject: Re: [wsrp][wsia][wsrp-wsia joint interfaces][Draft Spec
      0.43] Terminology




      Presuming the 2nd case to get dropped relative to the previous set of

      emails, I would propose this section call out how we will refer to
      these
      things throughout the remainder of the document/API. In particular, I
      would
      suggest:
            Session Information - This is carried opaquely in the interface
      as a
            "sessionID".
            => goes away
            Persistent Information - This is carried opaquely in the
      interface as
            a "handle".


      Rather than "Manifestation", I would propose using "Entity" to
      describe the
      thing from which markup may be requested. I think it has the right
      level of
      opacity (Consumer has no idea what kind of entity it is) while
      carrying
      appropriate semantics (a thing that may be interacted with). Using
      these
      terms, there was also an open question at the end of our last call
      related
      to whether there were both persistent and transient entities ...


      If we are going to support explicit lifecycle for both of these, I
      would
      propose:
         handle   createEntity(handle, propertyValues)
         sessionID   createSession(handle, propertyValues)







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