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Subject: Groups - WS-Notif conference call modified
WS-Notif conference call has been modified by Peter Niblett (peter_niblett@uk.ibm.com). Date: Monday, 12 July 2004 Time: 01:00pm - 02:00pm Eastern Time Event Description: NOTE.. This call was moved from July 5th. It will start at 1pm Eastern, following the WS-RF TC meeting. Bi-weekly conference call Toll Free Access Number: 866-639-4730 Toll Access Number: 574-948-0377 Participant PIN: 4474535 Agenda: Roll call Minutes of the call on Monday 21 June Action items review: See minutes for details - Item 3 WS-BrokeredNotification goals/requirements - Done - Item 4 WS-RF dependencies [1] - Item 5 Share 12th July with WS-RF TC - Done - Item 6 Work-in-progress, vs working draft - Item 7 List of typos in WS-Topics- Done - Item 8 Proposed NotificationProducer clarification - Done - Item 9 Writeup simultaneity issue - Done Document review: - WS-Topics ballot result - WS-BrokeredNotification draft - WS-BaseNotification version - Change summary ? [2] Preparation for Face-to-Face meeting Potential New Issues: - Generalise WSBN to cover indirect notification patterns [3] - Pause/Resume message types [4] - Relationships section [5] - any others? Issues review (time permitting): - issue 2.9 Conform to WS BaseFaults - issue 2.19 Soften the wording for Subscribe operation - issue 2.11: Consumer can not identify the subscription causing notifications [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00091.html [2] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00095.html [3] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00065.html [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200407/msg00011.html [5] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200407/msg00003.html Minutes: Minutes: OASIS/WSN-TC Date: Monday, 12 July 2004 Time: 01:00pm - 02:00pm Eastern Time Roll call - 26/37 - 70% Quorum met Summary Of Outstanding Actions: - Action: David S: Post pointer to WSRF issues list to the list as process recommendation. - Done - Action: Chairs: Draft document process proposal (Was Item 6 from previous meeting). - Action: Igor to check the text in the issues WSN-1.21. - Action: Editors (WS-T, WS-BaN, WS-BrN) to add this text covering the document status to the documents. - Action: William to post a ballot on WS-BrN. - Action: Editor WS-BaN to change version number to version 3. - Action: Editors (WS-T and WS-BrN) to rename references to WS-BaN as version 3. - Action: Peter: Become editor of changes document to accompany document release. - Action: Editors WS-T, WS-BaN, WS-BrN: Send Peter paragraph outlining changes is V3 release. - Action: All: Check your vote on the attendance at the F2F - Action: Chairs to check Quorum issue for F2F meeting. - Action: Chairs to clarify telephone attendance at F2F and post as part of the agenda. - Action: Glen to send IRC channel information to the list for notification of readiness to dial in to F2F. - Action: Peter to send David H a revised version of the indirect notification pattern text for inclusion in the issues document. Minutes of the call on Monday 21 June - Approved. Action items review: See minutes for details - Item 3 WS-BrokeredNotification goals/requirements - Done, without comments to the list. - Item 4 WS-RF dependencies [1] - David: Draft is available [1] - Peter: Provided references. - Done. - Item 5 Share 12th July with WS-RF TC - Done - Item 6 Work-in-progress, vs working draft - Open and postponed. - David S: Look at the solution to the this problem in WSRF. - Action: David S: Post pointer to WSRF issues list to the list as process recommendation. - Done - Action: Chairs: Draft document process proposal (Was Item 6 from previous meeting). - Item 7 List of typos in WS-Topics - Done - Item 8 Proposed NotificationProducer clarification - Done - Steve G: This is wrt mail of 14 June. - Steve's revision of the above in included in the issue WSN-1.21 - Action: Igor to check the text in the issues WSN-1.21. - Item 9 Writeup simultaneity issue - Done. Document review: - WS-Topics ballot result - Ballot closed with large majority. Go ahead and publish. - WS-BrokeredNotification draft - Was held up pending a requirements section. - It is ready for posting. - Text needs to be added to the document stating the status of the documents. - This text should be added without updating the version number. - Action: Editors (WS-T, WS-BaN, WS-BrN) to add this text covering the document status to the documents. - Action: William to post a ballot on WS-BrN. - WS-BaseNotification version - The request from WSRF to call it version 3, rather than 4. - Proposal to do this was agreed. - Action: Editor WS-BaN to change version number to version 3. - Action: Editors (WS-T and WS-BrN) to rename references to WS-BaN as version 3. - Change summary ? [2] - Glen agrees. - The question is when. After each major revision? - William suggested that it was a good idea but should be part of the revised document process. - Such a document would help people know how important the changes were. - Generally thought a good idea, but who should do it and in what form. - Steve G: Proposed three chapters in one document. - William: Call for document editor and each editorial team to provide chapter drafts. - All editors agreed to provide this. - Call for volunteers, Peter said yes. - Action: Peter: Become editor of changes document to accompany document release. - Action: Editors WS-T, WS-BaN, WS-BrN: Send Peter paragraph outlining changes is V3 release. Preparation for Face-to-Face meeting - Call for suggestions to chairs. - Action: All: Check your vote on the attendance at the F2F - Steve G: Asked that we check the Quorum issue prior to the list. - Action: Chairs to check Quorum issue for F2F meeting. - Phone attendance: - Call attendees will be counted as attended. - The call will open toward the end of the day. - Action: Chairs to clarify telephone attendance at F2F and post as part of the agenda. - Action: Glen to send IRC channel information to the list for notification of readiness to dial in to F2F. Potential New Issues: - Generalise WSBN to cover indirect notification patterns [3] - The proposed recommendation suggests a clarification to the introduction. - Peter: Is it within charter to deliver Notifications through other mechanisms other than WSs? - The registration is always WS based, only the delivery has the option to use other mechanisms. - Steve G: If we always assume that the delivery is always via WS, but other mechanisms are via other bindings. - David H: If we allow any delivery mechanism, we loose the interoperability. - David H: Using an EPR to point to the delivery target is OK, but other bindings or delivery mechanisms need to be supported. - It was noted that WSA was in itself an open issue. - Agreed that we should allow protocols other than SOAP/HTTP. - But what binding (if any) do we specify normatively. - There was some off topic discussion about the need to define bindings, etc. - William: The email says that what we really need if indirect delivery, which is only a minor problem with the introduction text. - Steve G: This might need to be managed carefully with respect to the "ReplyTo" field in the WSA spec. - David H: This may actually lead to MAY vs MUST issues in the document. - Peter: The indirect issue is important. - Proposal: Open the issue. Agreed. - Action: Peter to send David H a revised version of the indirect notification pattern text for inclusion in the issues document. [1] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00091.html [2] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00095.html [3] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200406/msg00065.html Meeting closed Un-addressed agenda items: - Pause/Resume message types [4] - Relationships section [5] - any others? Issues review (time permitting): - issue 2.9 Conform to WS BaseFaults - issue 2.19 Soften the wording for Subscribe operation - issue 2.11: Consumer can not identify the subscription causing notifications [4] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200407/msg00011.html [5] http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsn/200407/msg00003.html This event is one in a list of recurring events. Other event dates in this series: Monday, 10 May 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 24 May 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 07 June 2004, 12:00pm to 01:00pm Eastern Time Monday, 21 June 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 19 July 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 02 August 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 16 August 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 30 August 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 13 September 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 27 September 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 11 October 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 25 October 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 08 November 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 22 November 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 06 December 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time Monday, 20 December 2004, 12:00pm to 01:30pm Eastern Time View event details: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsn/event.php?event_id=4868 PLEASE NOTE: If the above link does not work for you, your email application may be breaking the link into two pieces. You may be able to copy and paste the entire link address into the address field of your web browser. Referenced Items Date Name Type ---- ---- ---- 22 Jun 2004 WSN_IssuesList1.2.doc Reference Document 25 Jun 2004 WS-Topics-1.2-draft-01.doc Reference Document 30 Jun 2004 20040621-wsn-minutes (submi... Reference Document
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