Notes from the OASIS WSRF TC
Teleconference
20th February 2006
Agenda
See: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/event.php?event_id=7756
Roll
Call
The roll call is kept on the TC web site under the meeting
record.
See http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/event.php?event_id=7756
The meeting achieved 35% attendance of voting members and was
not quorate. Proceeding as an informational meeting unless/until more people
join.
Confirm
minute taker
Tim Banks is taking the minutes.
Approve minutes of Teleconference on 6th February
See: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/16558
There were no comments on the minutes. Approval
was postponed until next quorate meeting.
Call For AOB
None.
Action Review - chair
(All) Review of the report for
submission to OASIS (on changes since 2nd public review) which is posted here: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/download.php/16543/wsrf_report_cs-01.htm
(DaveS) I looked during the last call, but
more review would be good. Has anyone else reviewed this?
None.
(DaveS) Who can review it?
(TimB) I will.
(DaveS + ???) Review unclean RMD
(Everyone else also to review if possible). Carried fwd from 23rd January. Carry
Fwd.
(DaveS) This is important and hasn’t had enough attention
yet. I am going to review it, but we need someone else to take a look also. Any
volunteers?
None.
(DaveS) You’ll have to trust me to get around to a good review.
(Ian & Jem) Review Appnotes.
(Everyone else also to review if possible) Carried Forward from 23rd January. Done
(per note from Ian)
(BryanM) Re-open issue 119 to
review name of MetadataDescriptor element.
(DaveS) Bryan isn’t on the call.
[PS: The latest issues list contains the updates: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/download.php/16675/WSRF_IssuesList.doc
]
(BryanM) Close issues 120, 155,
163.Done
(TimB) Raise new issue on RMD. Done
(DaveS) we can pick this up from the email & issues list
next time.
Comments on Primer
See mail from
Tim: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/email/archives/200602/msg00014.html
DaveS) We could have an informational discussion about this.
(TimB) These comments asked for more detail of message
exchanges, rather than selected highlights. The email has responses, but in
summary, one way to fix this is to embed hyperlinks from the text to full
message examples stored on the web site.
(DaveS) Do we already have the examples?
(TimB) Yes.
(DaveS) Also, if the primer becomes a fully-worked example,
people might implement WSRF without looking at the specs. That could be a
problem – we might need an extra level of review if we include the full
examples. We should propose a new issue to discuss this.
Action (Bryan) Record a new proposed issue to revise
the Primer per the email and consider review needed.
(DaveS) Where are we with the Primer? Is it at draft level?
(TimB) It’s a committee draft – we decided not to go for
Public review.
(DaveS) So we could go for another committee draft.
Status check (RMD and AppNotes)
(DaveS) Roger is not on the call. Where are we with RMD?
(Dan) I proposed a change to Roger based on review of other
issues. It was about combining to metadata descriptors into one.
(DaveS) Ok – we can discuss the email about RMD issues.
(TimB) This was about multiple <Property/> elements
pointing at the same ResourceProperty. One way this can happen is if portTypes
are aggregated. The RMD spec tries to illustrate portType inheritance with an
example, and perhaps it should leave that to AppNotes.
[Mario joins the call, but the meeting is still short of
Quorum]
(TimB) It seems as though a bit of clearing up is needed to
complete the removal the notion of portType inheritance.
(DaveS) IS this a warning message in the spec, or do we need
explicit statements.
(TimB) Yes, we need explicit statements about the uniqueness
of the path to a property.
(DaveS) So we could it to the metadata author to follow the
rule of uniqueness. Or do we need to be more prescriptive.
(Dan) We could update the schema .
(DaveS) If we try to explain how to do it, we could get into
a mire.
(Dan) The rules for combining metadata descriptors can’t be
written.
(TimB) Right – because the required semantics can only be
defined by the author of service. Mechanically, the schema could flag the
duplication, otherwise there could be two metadata descriptors, we couldn’t
identify the erroneous file or xml element. My suggestion is to use xsd:key to
make sure the path is unique within a metadatdescriptor, and then have one MDD
per portType. Currently we have two mechanisms to specify MDD: portType
attribute and ResourceProperty, so we need a precedence rule.
(DaveS) So, we can discuss this under ‘Proposed Issues’ next
time, and apologies that we didn’t reach quorum this time.
(DaveS) Any other comments?
AOB
(TomR) So the plan was to meet
the15th-of-the-month deadline for member submission in February.
(DaveS) Yes
(TomR) So, we’re going for March 15th
now?
(TimB) Ian’s note to Mary McRea to resolve
the submission issues was there on 15th Feb.
(DaveS) So the vote should be complete by
the end of March.
(TomR) Thanks.
(DaveS) We need to do a round up and let
people in our companies know and get the votes in. This could be an action
item for the next call. The vote will start on 15th March having
had 30 days to review before that.
Action:
(Chairs) Remind people to drum up votes for the specs. The vote will start on
the 15th March.
Straggler Roll Call – see Meeting record.
Closed 17:25
Next telecon is 6th March.
Summary of actions
(All including Tim) Review of the report for submission to
OASIS (on changes since 2nd public review) which is posted here: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrf/download.php/16543/wsrf_report_cs-01.htm
(DaveS + ???) Review unclean RMD
(Everyone else also to review if possible). Carried fwd
from 23rd January.
(Bryan) Record a new proposed issue to revise the Primer per
the email (20th Feb) and consider the level of review needed.
(Chairs) Need to drum up votes for the
specs. The vote will start on the 15th.