Re: [wsrm] Ack message and Fault message

["iwasa" <kiwasa@jp.fujitsu.com>]

Additional information.

Currently section 3.1 states:
"The MessageHeader element MUST be present for Reliable Message, PollRequest
message, Acknowledgment message, or Fault message. The MessageHeader element
includes basic information to be used for a reliable message. This element
includes the following attributes and child elements:"


So Ack and Fault message MUST include
MessageHeader element, according to the current spec.
Is that what we want? I think we should remove
"Acknowledgment message" and "Fault message"
from this sentence.

Do we agree to remove them?

Iwasa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "iwasa" <kiwasa@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Sunil Kunisetty" <sunil.kunisetty@oracle.com>
Cc: "wsrm" <wsrm@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [wsrm] Ack message and Fault message


> Sunil,
>
> I found one other question - which is potentially
> new issue.
>
> Before diving into new question,
> let me draw some quick example here
> to make sure what you said:
>
> 1.Normal Ack Message without piggybacking
> <soap:envelope>
> <soap:header>
>     <rm:Response>
>          <rm:RefToMessageIds>
>                 <SequenceNumRange/>
>          </rm:RefToMessageIds>
>     </rm:Response>
> </soap:header>
> <soap:body/>
>
> 2.Fault Message with SOAP1.1
> <soap:envelope>
> <soap:header>
>     <rm:Fault>xxxx Fault</rm:Fault>
> </soap:header>
> <soap:body/>
>
> What I wanted to make sure were:
> 1. Ack message without piggybacking
>     do not include <rm:Header> element.
> 2. Fault message without piggybacking
>     do not include <rm:Header> element.
> And it seems to be correct with Sunil's reply.
>
> The new question is how we can notify
> MessageId in the Fault Message.
> I believe Fault message have to include
> RefToMessageId for the fault.
> Example 2 above can't identify the original
> message that caused the fault.
>
> There are three ways to fix this issue:
> The first one is Fault message also include Response
> element(Example 3 below).
>
> The second one is
> to change location of Fault element as child element
> of Response element and allow it appears for Fault
> message only.
>
> The third one is
> to add new Code element and RefToMessageId
> element under Fault element(Example 5 below).
> And I prefer the last one, since the first two may be
> confusing. How do you think?
>
> 3.Candidate Fault Message with SOAP1.1 (1)
> <soap:envelope>
> <soap:header>
>     <rm:Response>
>          <rm:RefToMessageIds>
>                 <SequenceNumRange/>
>          </rm:RefToMessageIds>
>     </rm:Response>
>     <rm:Fault>xxxx Fault</rm:Fault>
> </soap:header>
> <soap:body/>
>
> 4.Candidate Fault Message with SOAP1.1 (2)
> <soap:envelope>
> <soap:header>
>     <rm:Response>
>          <rm:Fault>xxxx Fault</rm:Fault>
>          <rm:RefToMessageIds>
>                 <SequenceNumRange/>
>          </rm:RefToMessageIds>
>     </rm:Response>
>     <rm:Fault>xxxx Fault</rm:Fault>
> </soap:header>
> <soap:body/>
>
> 5.Candidate Fault Message with SOAP1.1 (3)
> <soap:envelope>
> <soap:header>
>     <rm:Fault>
>          <rm:Code>xxxx Fault</rm:Code>
>          <rm:RefToMessageIds>
>                 <SequenceNumRange/>
>          </rm:RefToMessageIds>
>     </rm:Fault>
> </soap:header>
> <soap:body/>
>
> If I misunderstood or I am missing something,
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iwasa
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sunil Kunisetty" <sunil.kunisetty@oracle.com>
> To: "iwasa" <kiwasa@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Cc: "wsrm" <wsrm@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [wsrm] Ack message and Fault message
>
>
> >
> >  Iwasa,
> >
> >  Ack. is ALWAYS included in the Response element and MessageHeader
> >  has to exist for every RM message. This is the case even for
> piggybacking.
> >  The difference between a normal ack. and piggybacked ack. is that, in
the
> >  latter case the (ack|fault) response is sent along with another
requeust,
> >  which means it will have a MessageHeader, Request, and Response
element.
> >  A normal ack. just has a MessageHeader and Response
> >
> >  The same applies for Faults (the difference being instead of using
> Response
> >  element, we will be usiing the Fault element) also except that for a
SOAP
> 1.2
> >  RM msg, we never use the Fault element.
> >
> >  HTH,
> >  -Sunil
> >
> > iwasa wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I'm working on the examples. And I think I need to make
> > > sure that:
> > > 1) The Acknowledgment message is including
> > >     Response element, but not MessageHeader element
> > >     except piggybacking.  Is this correct?
> > > 2) The Fault message is including Fault element,
> > >      but not MessageHeader element exept piggybacking.
> > >      Is this also correct?
> > >
> > > There is no statement for 2) above in the spec.
> > >
> > > If there is no argument, I will include some text to resolve
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Iwasa
> > >
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