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Subject: Re: [wsrm] clarification on Respond primitive

whenever the request causes any rm-fault, it cannot be delivered to the 
consumer.  All RM faults
have this property that for response reply pattern no response payload 
is avialable, unless
the sending RMP caches prior responses. 

Tom Rutt

Sunil Kunisetty wrote:

> Tom Rutt wrote:
>> This section is about rm faults.
>   Ok. if it is not about DE and generic Faults,  what is the chance 
> that BOTH RM Fault and SOAP Fault
>   need to be sent. I can't think of any cases myself.
>   Even if there are few chances, since it is not for all cases, we 
> have to say "*the underlying protocol
>   response MUST contain a SOAP Fault (in the SOAP Body)_ if exists 
> one _ in addition to the
>   appropriate RM Fault (in the SOAP Header).".
> * 
>> The clarification about duplicate elilmination needs to go in section 
>> 4, where duplicate elimination
>> element is defined.
>> There we have three options, which are up for debate:
>> 1) allow the receiving rmp to cache the earlier response and send it 
>> with the ack for the duplicate incoke
>> 2) allow the receiving rmo to send nothing in the soap body.  Since 
>> the sending RMP was responsible for the second invoke, it can filter 
>> out the second ack with the empty body.  It will not deliver it to 
>> the sender.  There is a small case where the original response is 
>> lost, in which case the sender does not get the response. This would be
>> the case with sending a soap fault as well.
>> 3) send a soap fault with tha duplicat ack.  This bothers some, since 
>> it is not a fault condition, and the
>> sending rmp can filter out the second ack and not deliver it.
>> Tom Rutt
>> Sunil Kunisetty wrote:

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