Re: [wsrm] Groups - COntribution-JD-WS-Reliability-2004-06-21.pdfuploaded

[Sunil Kunisetty <Sunil.Kunisetty@oracle.com>]

Tom Rutt wrote:

> This behaviour of sending soap fault with rm fault when no response 
> payload is available due to rm fault, has
> been in the spec for a long time.  
> I would say a member would have to come up with a real problem with 
> this behaviour to raise a new technical issue
> at this time.
>
> Please justtify this issue, so far I have not seen a justification to 
> change that is convincing.
>
 Please re-read all the mails once again.

> Tom Rutt
>
> Also what is the alternative to send when the wsdl contract is not 
> obeyed (there is no response to put in soap body)?
>
>
> du
> Sunil Kunisetty wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 4) Section 4.5 still talks about sending both SOAP and RM Fault, 
>>>> which is wrong and needs to be corrected
>>>> (I do understand that your exercise is not intended to fix this but 
>>>> even the latest 1.03 draft has the same
>>>> problem).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This has been agreed for a long time. This was agreed a long time 
>>> ago. The text in 4.5 is now considered stable.
>>>
>>> The rm fault, which results in no response payload being avilable 
>>> return for a response reply pattern, MUST be
>>> returned with a soap fault (the lack of response does not obey the 
>>> wsdl contract for that operation).
>>>
>>> If someone wants to question this, they must raise an issue, knowing 
>>> that we already voted on making it the way it is.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do. I want to be raised as an issue.
>>
>> I have sent many mails on this topic explaining why this is wrong and 
>> undesired and even
>> briefly discussed this with Jacques.
>>
>> Also, this one is listed as Issue/Item 4(a) in Doug's summary mail at:
>>        http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00123.html
>>
>> So I assumed it was raised as an issue/item to be discussed..
>>
>> The mails I've sent on this thread:
>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00085.html
>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00108.html
>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00110.html
>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00115.html
>>     http://www.oasis-open.org/archives/wsrm/200406/msg00117.html
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Sunil
>>>>
>>>> jdurand@us.fujitsu.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The document COntribution-JD-WS-Reliability-2004-06-21.pdf has 
>>>>> been submitted by Jacques Durand (jdurand@us.fujitsu.com) to the 
>>>>> OASIS Web Services Reliable Messaging TC document repository.
>>>>>
>>>>> Document Description:
>>>>> latest proposal in extending the WS-R message model, by adding 
>>>>> Respond operation, and removing limitation to "request-response" 
>>>>> underlying protocol.
>>>>>
>>>>> Download Document:  
>>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/7454/COntribution-JD-WS-Reliability-2004-06-21.pdf 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> View Document Details:
>>>>> http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/document.php?document_id=7454 
>>>>>
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