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Subject: Full Agenda for 2/22 teleconference of WSRM TC

The full agenda is attached.

Tom Rutt	email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com
Tel: +1 732 801 5744          Fax: +1 732 774 5133

Title: Draft Agenda to WSRM TC Conference Call – May 06, 2003

Full Agenda for WSRM TC Conference Call –Feb 22, 2005


The meeting of the WSRM  TC will take place by teleconference 

Tuesday, Feb 22 , 2005, from 5:30 to 7:00 PM Eastern Standard Time


Conference Bridge number Toll only : 1-512-225-3050 Participant code: 716071



1         Draft Agenda:


    1 Draft Agenda to WSRM TC Conference Call

    2 Roll Call

    3 Minutes Discussion

    3.1 Appointment of Minute Taker

    3.2 Approval of previous meeting minutes –

    4 Action Item Status Review

    5 Status of WS-Reliability Specification

    6 Status of Interop SC activities

    7 Next Step Documentation

    7.1 Editorial Clarifications and Errata

    7.2 Implementation Guidelines

    7.2 Future Enhancement Requests

    8 Composability with other WS-Specs

    9 ws reliability PAS progression

    10 Discussion of Future Meetings


2         Roll Call



Meeting ?? quorate.


4         Minutes Discussion


Tom Rutt will take minutes.


4.1      Approval of previous meeting minutes

The minutes of the 02/08 meeting (amended attendance list from prelim minutes) are posted at:



xx Moved to approve the 2/8  minutes, yy seconded.


?? opposition minutes 2.8  minutes ?? approved



5         Status of Action Items

5.1      Action 090704-1 (Tom) Pending


Action: Tom will try to find, from previous minutes, a list of features we have put off for future versions and will post it to the list for discussion.


5.1      Action 121404-2 (Anish) Pending


Action: Oracle will provide examples of soap header dumps with both ws-reliability and ws-addressing headers in use, as in the interop demo.


5.2      Action 012505-1 (Tom Rutt) Pending


Action: Tom will investigate how to change the status of printed document.  The posted standard still states CD.


5.3      Action 020805-1 (Tom Rutt) Closed


Action: Tom will reserve space for wsrm TC F2f two days at OASIS symposium the last week of April.


Tom Reserved all of wed and Thursday April 27 and 28 in New Orleans.

5.4      Action 020805-2 (Tom Rutt) open

Action: Tom will investigate how to post the three OASIS pas documents on our server.


Jamie Clark is investigating how to get the documents on the OASIS Site.

6         Status of WS-Reliability Specification


The public and member web site pages for the TC to have a single announcement, which refers by URL to spec and  schema at the proper location on the OASIS web site.







The spec itself still shows status a CD.


The chair sent an email to OASIS staff about the change, but received no response.


Continuing Action: Tom will investigate how to change the status of printed document.

7         Status of Interop SC activities


8         Next Step Documentation

Tom Rutt posted the edited contribution from the Interop SC as:



Comments have been requested on re-factoring this contribution into the three document types shown below.

8.1      Editorial Clarifications and Errata 

Clarifications, editorial nits, interpretations of the actual specification,

which should be posted for others to see

8.2      Implementation Guidelines / Application Notes

Things to help implementers, which, would typically be specific to application environments.

8.3      Future Enhancement Requests

Proposed changes for future versions which would ease implementation or enhance protocol capabilities.

9         Composability with other WS-Specs


Task force was initated with members Jacques, Alan,  Abbie,. and Bob F.


10   WS-reliability PAS progression

Tom sent a mail to investigate how to post the three OASIS pas documents on our server.


The attached response from Jamie, is posted as:

[Fwd: Re: Can OASIS post the JTC1 Pas Papers] Tom Rutt 14 Feb 2005 12:17:58


    * From: James Bryce Clark <jamie.clark@oasis-open.org>

    * To: tom@coastin.com

    * Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 13:43:31 -0800


     Acknowledged.  I will inquire.

     Please note that submission to an outside group like ISO is possible

but requires some OASIS management approval.   (See the liasion policy at

http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/liaison_policy.php#submitwork.)   If a

TC wants to recommend this to us, it might be a good first step to have the

TC adopt a motion or such to that effect.  The criteria -- on the OASIS

side, which on a timeline would precede any ISO criteria -- are listed in

that policy as well.

     I am aware of the acute interest that some members have in ending some

OASIS work to JTC1's panels which are populated in part by those

members.  There are other parts of ISO as well, so one of the open

questions is "why JTC1"?  .  It may well be a good idea to send items to

JTC1 -- but it's not a sure thing yet, and I am hesitant to encourage

people to get ahead of the process.  Which starts by somebody proposing it

to us.  Which hasn't happened yet so far as I know.

     Should I send essentially this message to the TC as well, or is all

that already obvious to them?

     Regards  Jamie


Tom Rutt at 10:07 AM 2/9/2005:


>The WSRM TC is discussing the possible progression of ws-reliability thru

>the OASIS pas process.

>I, since I am a member of the US national body, downloaded three JTC1

>documents using

>their password protection:

>Jtc1 N7458 -OASIS pas application

>N7617 - Summary of Ballot responses granting OASIS Pas submitter

>N7633 OASIS answers to NB comments.

>I would like to have these documents available to the wsrm tc members.

>Can you see if JTC1 secretariat will let OASIS put these papers on our

>site, or give us a public url reference for them?

>Tom Rutt

>wsrm TC chair



11   Discussion of Future Meetings


Tom reserved all day Wed and Thursday after the symposium for Our TC.


We will need to bring our own projector, the hotel will supply a screen.


There will be a 30 dollar a day fee for attendees (there will be a meeting registration form).



12   New Business

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