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Subject: Re: [wsrm] reliability of response messages


I would like to note that per rfc 2119, SHALL and MUST are one and the same.

-Anish
--

Durand, Jacques R. wrote:
> This is a rough draft…
> 
> Maybe this is better:
> 
>  
> 
> *Quality of Service definition*:
> 
>  
> 
> When the GuaranteedDelivery Agreement Item is enabled for the response 
> message in a request-response MEP, the following conditions must also be 
> satisfied:
> 
> -          GuaranteedDelivery and DuplicateElimination are also enabled 
> for the request message.
> 
> Either one of the following outcomes must occur:
> 
>  (1) the Response-receiving RMP successfully delivers the response 
> message to its associated Consumer or
> 
> (2) the Response-receiving RMP notifies its associated Consumer of an 
> exchange failure (meaning either the request or the response message 
> failed to be delivered). In this case, an additional delivery failure to 
> the Response-producer party by the Response-sending RMP may occur.
> 
>  
> 
> (the option mentioned in the last sentence depends whether or not a 
> reliability ack is requested for the response message.)
> 
>  
> 
> -J
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> *From:* Abbie Barbir [mailto:abbieb@nortel.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:51 PM
> *To:* Durand, Jacques R.; wsrm@lists.oasis-open.org
> *Subject:* RE: [wsrm] reliability of response messages
> 
>  
> 
> Jacque,
> 
> Something does not add up with the choice of SHALL below. If your are 
> saying Guranteed Delivery then SHALL SHOULD be MUST.
> 
>  
> 
> Abbie
> 
>  
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> *From:* Durand, Jacques R. [mailto:JDurand@us.fujitsu.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:32 PM
> *To:* wsrm@lists.oasis-open.org
> *Subject:* [wsrm] reliability of response messages
> 
> Investigating the update needed for reliability response messages 
> (guarateed delivery), for users who need it:
> 
> * *
> 
> *Quality of Service definition*:
> 
>  
> 
> When the GuaranteedDelivery Agreement Item is enabled for the response 
> message in a request-response MEP, the following conditions must also be 
> satisfied:
> 
> -          GuaranteedDelivery and DuplicateElimination are also enabled 
> for the request message.
> 
> One of the two following outcomes SHALL occur for each SubmitResponse 
> invocation that follows a successfully delivered SOAP request message: 
> either:
> 
>  (1) the Response-receiving RMP successfully delivers (DeliverResponse 
> invocation) the payload to its associated Consumer or
> 
> (2) it notifies (Notify invocation) the Response-consumer of a delivery 
> failure for the response.
> 
>  In case (2) an additional delivery failure to the Response-producer by 
> the Response-sending RMP may occur.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> *Functional and Protocol Aspects*:
> 
>  
> 
> After receiving a request message, and if a response message has been 
> previously sent over the back-channel for this request, then the same 
> response message MUST be sent again on the back-channel of any request 
> duplicate that is received. This assumes that the initial response is 
> cached (until expiration or until it is acknowledged, whichever comes 
> first.)
> 
> The request message submitted with Submit operation, must use the 
> wsrm:Response RM-Reply Pattern. When under GuaranteedDelivery, the 
> response message resulting from SubmitResponse invocation, may or may 
> not contain a wsrm:Request element. If the Response message includes a 
> wsrm:Request element, this element must use Callback RM-Reply Pattern 
> with AckRequested element.
> 
>  
> 
> Jacques
> 
>  
> 


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