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Subject: Prelim minutes of 3/20 teleconf
prelim minutes attached. Provide corrections before next monday. Tom -- ---------------------------------------------------- Tom Rutt email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com Tel: +1 732 801 5744 Fax: +1 732 774 5133Title: Minutes WSRM TC Conference Call –3/20/07
Preliminary Minutes WSRM TC Conference Call – Mar 20, 2007 5:30 – 6:30 PM EDT.
Textual Conventions Ø Action Item Motion § Resolution 1
Draft Agenda:
|
First Name |
Last Name |
Role |
Company |
Jacques |
Durand |
Secretary |
Fujitsu Limited* |
Kazunori |
Iwasa |
Voting Member |
Fujitsu Limited* |
Tom |
Rutt |
Chair |
Fujitsu Limited* |
Eisaku |
Nishiyama |
Voting Member |
Hitachi, Ltd.* |
Nobuyuki |
Yamamoto |
Voting Member |
Hitachi, Ltd.* |
Robert |
Freund |
Voting Member |
Hitachi, Ltd.* |
Paul |
Knight |
Voting Member |
Nortel Networks Limited* |
jeff |
mischkinsky |
Member |
Oracle Corporation* |
Pete |
Wenzel |
Voting Member |
Sun Microsystems |
Meeting is quorate
The minutes of the March 6 teleconference meeting are posted at: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22926/MinutesWsrmTC-030607.htm
Jacques moved to
approve the March 6 minutes, Bob
seconded.
No opposition March 6 minutes are approved
Action 1: Jacques will post CD for application notes on web site.
Jacques will post on our site and to arrange for OASIS staff to post at correct url..
Action 2 on Tom is update public site to ensure it has up to date links.
Posted by Jacques:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22783/wsrm-ApplicationNotes-cd.doc
Jacques: I applied what was done in ebxml TC, to help users of standard to profile their use of these standards.
Section 4 is detailed aspects for the profile, which might affect interoperability at application level.
Jacques: It was not hard to produce, since I just went for the Options in our spec, using a template structure from other TCs.
Tom: I would find it useful.
Tom: would people be willing to vote on this document in two weeks time.
Bob: we would like time to review.
Comments should be posted by Tuesday of Next week.
Put on agenda for CD vote for meeting in two weeks.
Draft Application Notes From Iwasa posted as: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsrm/download.php/22959/WS-ReliabilityProfileforInformationAppliancesEnglish1.0.pdf
A Profile of Reliable Web Services Messaging for Information
Appliances Services
[WS-Reliability]
Iwasa translated the document to English. It is not using the new template. I could upload a new profile using this template. I could do that before next Tuesday.
Bob: What is the Document’s Intap approval process. What is forcast of Intap process for this document.
Iwasa: It is in the approval process. The Japanese profile will be approved. It was discussed to submit the document to this TC.
Bob: The document has not yet been approved by INTAP. There could be changes as it goes thru the INTAP discussion process.
Iwasa: there is some leeway to change the document. However there are no anticipate changes.
Bob: Could you check the formal status of this document in INTAP.
Bob: there are sections in the draft which are incomplete, section 4.1 group termination last page. Something seems to be missing.
Tom: the status within INTAP needs to be clarified.
Iwasa: the SIG agrees the content, and will submit for public review.
Bob: so the public review process has not yet started.
Tom: we cannot change the web site after april 15. So if we don have a definitive reference form INTAP by that date, we cannot update the site after that date.
Tom: when could public review within INTAP be done.
Iwasa: one or two months.
Tom: We agreed before it would be best to be given a stable url to Intap.
Pete: they have given such a stable URL.
Iwasa: I have sent out the URL for intap web site.
Document
Description:
This
document is to recommend how WS-Reliability should be implemented or
used for Information
Appliances.
You
will be able to download the approved version at the following link: http://net2.intap.or.jp/SPIA/sig3_hrwsm.htm
*Currently it is not yet posted there.
Tom: could we get a statement from INTAP by the next meeting on a stable URL.
Tom: how do we get a version conforming to template by middle of april.
Iwasa: I could produce a profile document conforming to template with us voting to CD
Pete : That would be a derivative work to reformat and translate to English.
Jacques: the TC could vote that the profile conforms to the template. Could we agree to approve as an instance of these templates.
Pete: that is fine if we have permission to publish derivative work, with all IPR and copyright issues. That is why we decided it better to refer by reference.
Iwasa: Intap would be able to change copyright.
Pete: we would need clear copyright and ipr transfer.
Tom: how can this TC decide if the question answers are correct for their field of application.
Jacques: we could certify that the profile is a proper instance of the template. We could give it exemplar value. However its endorsement would have to be limited to the usage of template not contents.
Reference preferred, anything else would require more discussion
Propose next meeting in two weeks: April 3
On agenda will be a vote for CD on template.
Also continue Discussion of the Intelligent appliance profile.
Bob: pursue ruling on contribute document from INTAP to Jamie. Needs to be communication from INTAP.
Tom: how could we get copyright transfer to OASIS by next week.
Jacques: I can coordinate with IWASA and the OASIS staff.
Paul K : there is a statement on March 15 document.
Bob: that statement is outside my purview.
Pete: that statement could come from the INTAP staff.
Jacques: but Fujitsu is a copyright owner.
Tom: Jacques should work this out with the staff at OASIS.
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