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-----Original Message-----
From: Goldstein, Scott=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:08 PM
To: Rich Thompson; wsrp-interfaces@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsrp-interfaces] Questions regarding =
getPortletDescription()
Thanks for the info, Rich.
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So, just to be completely clear, in the case that the metadata is not =
updated in any fashion by the producer, if I were to call =
getPortletDescription() with a UserContext containing all of the =
Producers' user categories, I would be guaranteed to receive the same =
structure as if I had called getServiceDescription(). Correct?
=20
Scott
=20
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_____ =20
From: Rich Thompson [mailto:richt2@us.ibm.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 8:57 AM
To: wsrp-interfaces@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsrp-interfaces] Questions regarding =
getPortletDescription()
=20
Thanks for your persistence ... sometimes as we get busy we hope that =
others will supply the answers :}=20
The data in GetPortletDescriptionResponse is the same that is included =
in the array returned by getServiceDescription() with a few caveats. The =
data is allowed to change (portlet data updated, user access rights, =
etc) and most Producers will only return data from =
getServiceDescription() for their POPs while getPortletDescription() can =
be invoked against any portletHandle.=20
Rich=20
"Goldstein, Scott" <Scott.Goldstein@vignette.com>=20
06/02/2004 11:31 AM=20
To
<wsrp-interfaces@lists.oasis-open.org>=20
cc
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Subject
[wsrp-interfaces] Questions regarding getPortletDescription()
=20
=20
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I haven't received a reply to my message I sent out last week, so I =
thought I would try to resend it. If you have any answers to the =
questions below, please reply. Thanks.=20
=20
=20
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I have the following questions regarding the getPortletDescription() =
operation:=20
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1. How does the data returned in the PortletDescriptionResponse =
relate to the portlet description contained within the =
ServiceDescription? Must they be identical? Or, can the producer =
change the data based on the user context. For instance, could the =
producer not specify a particular supported mode if the user is not an =
admin?=20
2. If the answer to #1 is that they can be different, then is =
there a way to ensure, when calling this method, that the =
PortletDescription returned would be equal to that in the =
ServiceDescription? Perhaps by sending all of the possible User =
Categories?=20
3. If the answer to #1 is that they must be the same, then is the =
only use of the UserContext attribute to allow the producer to throw an =
AccessDenied Fault? Will passing all user categories avoid this?=20
=20
Essentially, I'm trying to understand the intended use of =
getPortletDescription() and if it can be used as an optimization to =
update portlet meta data without having to retrieve the full service =
description.=20
=20
Thanks for the information.=20
=20
Scott=20
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size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Goldstein, Scott=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Rich =
Thompson;=20
wsrp-interfaces@lists.oasis-open.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[wsrp-interfaces]=20
Questions regarding getPortletDescription()<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Rich.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So, just to =
be=20
completely clear, in the case that the metadata is not updated in any =
fashion=20
by the producer, if I were to call getPortletDescription() with a =
UserContext=20
containing all of the Producers’ user categories, I would be =
guaranteed to=20
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Correct?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Thompson [mailto:richt2@us.ibm.com] <BR><B><SPAN=20
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AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
wsrp-interfaces@lists.oasis-open.org<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [wsrp-interfaces] =
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regarding getPortletDescription()</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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GetPortletDescriptionResponse is the same that is included in the =
array=20
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allowed to=20
change (portlet data updated, user access rights, etc) and most =
Producers will=20
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getPortletDescription() can be invoked against any=20
portletHandle.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif =
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12pt"><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I haven’t=20
received a reply to my message I sent out last week, so I thought I =
would try=20
to resend it. If you have any answers to the questions below, =
please=20
reply. Thanks.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I have the=20
following questions regarding the getPortletDescription()=20
operation:</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
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=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How does the data =
returned in the=20
PortletDescriptionResponse relate to the portlet description contained =
within=20
the ServiceDescription? Must they be identical? Or, can =
the=20
producer change the data based on the user context. For =
instance, could=20
the producer not specify a particular supported mode if the user is =
not an=20
admin?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">2. =
=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the answer to #1 is =
that they=20
can be different, then is there a way to ensure, when calling this =
method,=20
that the PortletDescription returned would be equal to that in the=20
ServiceDescription? Perhaps by sending all of the possible User=20
Categories?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3Dsans-serif size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: sans-serif">3. =
=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If the answer to #1 is =
that they=20
must be the same, then is the only use of the UserContext attribute to =
allow=20
the producer to throw an AccessDenied Fault? Will passing all =
user=20
categories avoid this?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Essentially, I’m =
trying to=20
understand the intended use of getPortletDescription() and if it can =
be used=20
as an optimization to update portlet meta data without having to =
retrieve the=20
full service description.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Thanks for=20
the information.</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
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