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Subject: Re: [wsrp-interop] Re: [wsrp] Anonymous User


Richard,  given your other e-mail concerning environments that reject messages that don't have the Username token I am not sure what you are suggesting is the interoperable (standard) solution.  I.e. I am looking for what the standard/default consumer behavior should be unless it is otherwise informed/configured.  Are we really going to demand that producers have duplicate ports just to receive anonymous requests?  Wouldn't it be cleaner if manufactured a standard UserName token to signify this (wsrp-minimal?) or demand the producer handle the lack of the Username token?
     -Mike-

Richard Jacob wrote:
right. So a mixed environment would either require a policy definition
which would be able to express this or by having to port definitions and
annotate them accordingly.

Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,

        Richard Jacob
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IBM Lab Boeblingen, Germany
Dept.8288, WebSphere Portal Server Development
WSRP Technical Lead
WSRP Standardization
Phone: ++49 7031 16-3469  -  Fax: ++49 7031 16-4888
Email: mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com


                                                                           
             Subbu Allamaraju                                              
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Not supplying a security token is the most ideal, since by doing so, the
sender is telling the producer that either that it does not know who the
user is, or that it cannot generate one.

The producer then has a choice - it could either interpret lack of the
token to mean an anonymous user, or reject the message altogether. I
would expect a WSDL policy attachment to specify which way the producer
intends to behave.

Subbu

Rich Thompson wrote:
  
I suspect most systems default to the guest user (if allowed) when no
user credentials are supplied. Is anyone aware of systems not following
this behavior?

Rich


*Nathan Lipke <nlipke@bea.com>*

08/08/2006 01:36 AM


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           Michael Freedman <michael.freedman@oracle.com>
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           wsrp <wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org>,
    
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           Re: [wsrp] Anonymous User








True, WS-Security does not account for anonymous/guest users. SAML
suffers from the same issue. I'm a little concerned about using a string
for the username as it may interfere with existing username token
implementations. Perhaps we should sign something else (the body or a
timestamp) in the case of the anonymous user.

--
Nate

Michael Freedman wrote:

 > Folks, it doesn't look like there is a formal convention in
 > WS-Security to pass an anonymous/guest user identity particularly when
 > relying on UserName Token or Username token with password.  Am I
 > mistaken?  If not I wonder if there is an accidental convention in our
 > wsrp implementations -- what if anything do you do in this regards?
 >
 > To be clear we are concerned about a situtation in which the consumer
 > identifies itself to the producer (via a digital signature) and wants
 > to use the UserName Token mechanism to identify the user on whose
 > behalf this consumer is making the request.  We want a known
 > form/value that (wsrp) intercepters/the security system (if it
 > supports such a concept) will map to an anonymous user/guest.  Should
 > this be (a nil) the lack of a UserName token?  A UserName token whose
 > value is ""?  A Username token whose value is wsrp:minimal?  Any of
 > these?
 >    -Mike-


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