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Subject: Re: [wsrp-wsia] Issue #31: MINIMIZED state does not necessarilymeannomarkup.
Carsten, You are right the JSR is in sync with us here. I was confused by the JSRs desire to prevent this behavior in the base class it encourages all portlets to use. Unless others object, we should move this issue to resolved. -Mike- Carsten Leue wrote: > Again I think that there is no issue here. From what I heard from Stefan > Hepper JSR 168 also mandates that the render method of the portlet will be > called in minimized state, but that the portlet should not return visible > markup. > > Best regards > Carsten Leue > > ------- > Dr. Carsten Leue > Dept.8288, IBM Laboratory Böblingen , Germany > Tel.: +49-7031-16-4603, Fax: +49-7031-16-4401 > > > Rich > Thompson/Watson/I > BM@IBMUS To > wsrp-wsia > 10/17/2002 02:11 <wsrp-wsia@lists.oasis-open.org> > PM cc > > Subject > RE: [wsrp-wsia] Issue #31: > MINIMIZED state does not > necessarily meanno markup. > > > > > > > > I agree that it is preferable for JSR168 to be a subset of what we enable. > Questions relative to differences need to be explicit about what the JSR > semantics are so that we can work towards a resolution. > > Andre Kramer > > <andre.kramer@eu. To: wsrp-wsia > <wsrp-wsia@lists.oasis-open.org> > citrix.com> cc: > > Subject: RE: [wsrp-wsia] > Issue #31: MINIMIZED state does not > 10/17/2002 07:09 necessarily meanno > markup. > AM > > Can returning no markup on MINIMIZED not be up to the remote Entity (and > leaving it up to the consumer to include it in presentation)? I was more > concerned by the spec mentioning javascript and other non-visible content > being allowed as a return from getMarkup() but not visible content. Also, > there is a separate question of whether getMarkup() should be called at all > (e.g. to return a title for MINIMIZED Portlet). We should make sure (which > I > think is already the case) that JSR168 is a sub-set of possible WSRP > behaviour. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gil Tayar [mailto:Gil.Tayar@webcollage.com] > Sent: 17 October 2002 08:49 > To: wsrp-wsia > Subject: RE: [wsrp-wsia] Issue #31: MINIMIZED state does not necessarily > meanno markup. > > I have added Rich's text below to the issue's proposed resolution, and left > it as tentatively resolved. > > Mike, I think we should create a new issue on the difference from JSR168. > Would you like me to create it? > > Gil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Freedman [mailto:Michael.Freedman@oracle.com] > Sent: Wed, October 16, 2002 17:57 > To: wsrp-wsia > Subject: Re: [wsrp-wsia] Issue #31: MINIMIZED state does not necessarily > meanno markup. > > My point was that the JSR has defined different semantics than this and > that > this issue indicated the > proper result was for it to do otherwise. If you think this issue is about > defining the semantics of VIEW_MINIMIZED, it does and can therefore be > marked resolved. I will just go > ahead and open a new issue stating that our semantics of VIEW_MINIMIZED > differ from the JSR. When I > wrote this note, I assumed it might make sense to use this issue as the > placeholder for being out of > sync. Let me know if you want me to open an issue. > -Mike- > > Rich Thompson wrote: > > > I think we do need to define semantics for things such as this and while > > syncing up with the JSR work is important, it should not impede producing > > such definitions (if the JSR suggest changes after we define semantics, > we > > should engage them in a discussion as to why and re-resolve the > semantics). > > Perhaps the sentence that suggests it is in sync with JSR168 should be > > deleted (Gil?). Current language is: > > > > When the window state is VIEW_MINIMIZED, the entity SHOULD render > itself > > using minimal space. The entity SHOULD render no visible markup in > this > > case, but is free to include non-visible data such as javascript > or > > hidden forms. The Consumer MUST invoke the getMarkup() operation for > the > > VIEW_MINIMIZED state just as for all other window states. The > Consumer > > MAY render the title, controls and decorations related to the entity. > > > > I would note that Andre suggested that some Consumers may want to show > a > > small image when the entity is minimized ... I would suggest that > this > > not pollute these semantics, but that it would be a custom window > state > > of the flavor 'Iconized'. > > > > > > Michael Freedman > > <Michael.Freedman@ To: wsrp-wsia > <wsrp-wsia@lists.oasis-open.org> > > oracle.com> cc: > > Subject: [wsrp-wsia] re: > Issues for 10/7 > > 10/15/2002 06:53 > > PM > > > > > > > > There are few issues this week that have been marked to move from > > tentative to resolved that I don't think are ready yet. Here are the > > comments for those issues: > > > > Issue #31: MINIMIZED state does not necessarily mean no markup. > > The resolution suggests that its in sync with JSR 168. However, the > > JSR has not synched with this resolution. This should remain open until > > we can resolve with the JSR. > > > > -Mike- > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription > manager: <http://lists.oasis-open.org/ob/adm.pl>
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