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Subject: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes for 20 February 2003 Meeting


Minutes for WSRP teleconference on 2/20/03
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Meeting begain at 9:09 PST

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Roll Call

Voting Members in Attendance:
    Abdelnur, Alejandro   Sun Microsystems        yes
    Aickin, Sasha	  Plumtree Software       yes
    Allamaruaju, Subbu	  BEA Systems Inc.        yes
    Atkinson, Olin	  Novell                  yes
    Blich, Amir           SAP                     yes
    Braun, Chris          Novell                   no
    Brooks, Rex           Starbourne              yes
    Cox, T.J.             Novell                   no
    Cox, William          BEA Systems Inc.         no
    Dirking, Brian        Stellent                 no
    Freedman, Michael     Oracle Corporation      yes
    Fubini, Ross          Plumtree Software       yes
    Jacob, Richard        IBM                     yes
    Klein, Jon            Reed-Elsevier           yes
    Kramer, Andre         Citrix Systems, Inc.    yes
    Kropp, Alan           Vignette Corporation    yes
    Leue, Carsten         IBM                     yes
    Machak, Dan           TIBCO Software Inc.     yes
    Mitsuoka, Madoka      Fujitsu                  no
    Nolan, Adam           Reed-Elsevier           yes
    Rameshl, Raj          CommerceOne             yes
    Randhawa, Sunit       Fujitsu                  no
    Ratcliffe, Nigel      Factiva                  no
    Schaeck, Thomas       IBM                     yes
    Shumakher, Gennady    SAP                      no
    Smith, Steven         Capitol College          no
    Tamari, Yossi         SAP                     yes
    Tayar, Gil            WebCollage              yes
    Thompson, Rich        IBM                     yes
    van Lydegraf, Eric    Kinzan                   no
    Young, Michael        Plumtree Software        no
    Wiecha, Charles       IBM                      no

Total voting members:         32
Voting members in attendance: 20 (62%)
A quorum was present.

Prospective Members in Attendance:
    Batra, Atul           Sun Microsystems        yes

Observers in Attendance:
    Martin, Monica        Drake Certivo	           no

Members on Leave of Absence
    Filicetti, Gino       Bowstreet                no
    Palas, Petr           Moravia IT               no
    Reshef, Eilon         WebCollage               no
    Rudnicki, Joe         U.S. Navy                no



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The minutes were accepted from the teleconferance on 2/13/02


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Rich started addressing the outstanding change requests.

All of the following changes were accepted without
objection:

Small editorial/grammar changes :
 145 - Missing 'the' in 6.1.10
 146 - Rearrange phrases in 6.2.1.1
 148 - Explicitly "session" scope
 149 - Respecting grouping
 150 - Typing of extensions
 152 - Drop "is"
 154 - false -> "false"
 159 - Delete reference to included field
 160 - Update useCachedMarkup description
 161 - Ports, not bindings
 163 - Plural field names for arrays

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Summary of the substantive changes: 

 139 - Add UpdateResponse.isSecure?                TABLED
 140 - Add PortletDescription.onlySecure?          ACCEPTED
 141 - Add previous windowState and mode?          TABLED
 157 - Add pushesPersistentState?                  NOT ACCEPTED
 136 - Producer supported user profile types       ACCEPTED
 137 - Producer supported window states and modes  ACCEPTED
 138 - How does info get to proxied resources      TABLED

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 139 - Add UpdateResponse.isSecure?
       
       Reasoning: This is the only case where the Producer
       cannot control security of the transport.

       Tabled for this week. Discussion was taking too long.

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 140 - Add PortletDescription.onlySecure?

       Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. A JSR-168
       portlet can describe itself as always being secure.
       The technical reason is that this allows the Consumer
       to optimize the user experience. 

       Resolved: the flag will be added to PortletDescription

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 141 - Add previous windowState and mode?
  
       Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. This will allow
       the Producer to get back to the mode or window state
       it was in prior to being changed by the Consumer.

       Tabled for this week. Allow people to think about it

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 157 - Add pushesPersistentState? 

       Reasoning: Allow Producers to specify that it will
       require Consumers to store persisted state.

       Mike raised the point that it is not optional for
       Consumers to support persistence. 

       Resolved: Don't do this in version 1. Perhaps in a 
       future version, we may relax the constraint on 
       Consumers having to support persistence.

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 136 - Producer supported user profile types 

       Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. Allows having localized
       descriptions of the profiles. This will be similar to
       userCategoryDesciptions

       Resolved: Will define userProfileDescription similar 
       to userCategoryDescription. Provided in Producer
       description.

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 137 - Producer supported window states and modes
       Reasoning: JSR-168 Alignment. Same behavior as for
       userProfileDescriptions in CR 136.

       Resolved: accepted

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 138 - How does info get to proxied resources (Insert a new section
10.4?)

       Reasoning: Some proxied resources need to have access
       to additional state in order to execute properly.

       Question on whether Consumers need to handle cookies
       in accordance with the cookie spec. 

       Resolved: The section will probably be useful, but
       there are still some open questions. Continue with 
       email discussion
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Next week will do a 1-hour call on Tuesday and 
a 2-hour call on Thursday.

Meeting adjourned at 10:10 PST



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