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Subject: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes for 13 March 2003 Meeting
Meeting started at 8:05 PST
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Roll Call
Voting Members:
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Alejandro Abdelnur Sun yes
Sasha Aickin Plumtree yes
Subbu Allamaraju BEA yes
Olin Atkinson Novell yes
Atul Batra Sun no
Amir Blich SAP yes
Chris Braun Novell no
Rex Brooks Starbourne yes
T.J. Cox Novell no
William Cox BEA yes
Brian Dirking Stellent no
Michael Freedman Oracle yes
Ross Fubini Plumtree yes
Richard Jacob IBM yes
Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier yes
Andre Kramer Citrix yes
Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes
Carsten Leue IBM yes
Dan Machak Tibco yes
Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu yes
Petr Palas Moravia IT yes
Raj Ramesh CommerceOne yes
Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu yes
Nigel Ratcliffe Factiva yes
Thomas Schaeck IBM yes
Gennady Shumaker SAP yes
Yossi Tamari SAP Portals yes
Gil Tayar WebCollage no
Rich Thompson IBM yes
Charles Wiecha IBM yes
Total voting members: 30
Voting members in attendance: 25 (83%)
A quorum was present.
Members on Leave Of Absence
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Joe Rudnicki U.S. Navy LOA
Steven Smith Capitol College LOA
Eric van Lydegraf Kinzan LOA
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The minutes from 3/06/03 were accepted
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Schedule for finishing the spec (Thomas):
March 26 Deadline for submitting Change Requests
March 27 and April 3 calls to process these Change requests.
Email vote to commence April 10 and end April 16
The March 26 date is a hard cutoff date, and the other
dates are targets.
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Open Issues from January Face-to-Face
Sasha:
Open issue from 1.2.4 for Sasha to provide additional language.
Resolution: no further change needed.
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Andre:
WSDL group to look at an ANY for including arbitrary XML. (Andre)
but this would have negative performance impact.
Also looked at using CDATA. This could be used by Producers
to include XML as well as base64
Resolution: no further change needed.
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Rich:
Renaming MarkupTypeType. (e.g. MarkupSupport/MarkupFormat)
Resolution: no further change needed.
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Summary of Change Requests
207 - PortletDescription dependent on UserContext? ACCEPTED
213 - Require modes/windowstates/userAuth are URIs ACCEPTED
215 - Delete statement re: "private conversational state" ACCEPTED
230 - Setting navState ACCEPTED
234 - Delete secion B-1 (relies on "producerAgent") ACCEPTED
235 - Custom User Scopes ACCEPTED*
236 - Name all fields that hold a mime-type to "MimeType" ACCEPTED
237 - Common portal interface for control buttons DEFERRED (email)
141 - Add previous windowState and mode? DEFERRED (email)
138 - How does info get to proxied resources? DEFERRED (email)
* See details
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Summary of Action Items:
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- Michael will provide logical definition of common UI buttons
for discussion in email (See CR 237)
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207 - PortletDescription dependent on UserContext?
Section 8.2 / Page 36 / Andre Kramer
Questions whether getPortletDescription() should take a
UserContext parameter
Resolution: Approved: Will add words "access to" after restrict
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213 - Require modes, windowstates & userAuthentication are URIs
Section 6.1.9 / Page 31 / Line 20 / Rich Thompson
Proposes the recommendation become a reuirement.
Resolution: Approved.
There was a general agreement that the spec would use
URIs for window states, modes, user-auth, user-scopes. There
was a disagreement on the conformance level for custom
custom window state, mode, or user-auth, user-scopes. A
vote was taken to determine whether this would be "must"
or "should".
must: 10
should: 6
abstain: 9
Vote details:
Alejandro Abdelnur Sun abstain
Sasha Aickin Plumtree must
Subbu Allamaraju BEA should
Olin Atkinson Novell must
Amir Blich SAP abstain
Rex Brooks Starbourne must
William Cox BEA abstain
Michael Freedman Oracle should
Ross Fubini Plumtree must
Richard Jacob IBM must
Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier should
Andre Kramer Citrix must
Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation should
Carsten Leue IBM must
Dan Machak Tibco must
Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu must
Petr Palas Moravia IT abstain
Raj Ramesh CommerceOne should
Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu abstain
Nigel Ratcliffe Factiva should
Thomas Schaeck IBM abstain
Gennady Shumaker SAP abstain
Yossi Tamari SAP Portals abstain
Rich Thompson IBM must
Charles Wiecha IBM abstain
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215 - Delete statement about "private conversational state"
Section 6.1.19 / Page 38 / Line 19 / Rich Thompson
Suggests deleting this statement as it is either incomplete
or wrong.
Resolution: Approved
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230 - Setting navState
Section 6.1.9 / Page 30 / Line 24 / Andre Kramer
Be more explicit about how navState is set.
Resolution: Approved
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234 - Delete secion B-1 (relies on "producerAgent")
Section: Appendix B.1 / Page 77 /Line 5 / Michael Freedman
Resolution: Approved
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235 - Custom User Scopes
Resolution: Approved
- will drop custom user scope field in description.
- Consumer enumerates what it supports of the scopes defined
in spec.
- Absense of values makes no statement about whether
caching is actually available or not.
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236 - Name all fields that hold a mime-type to "MimeType"
Resolution: Approved
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237 - Portlet Control of user interface for control buttons
Rich broke this down into 2 separate parts:
1. Definition of basic buttons, including semantics of these buttons
2. Definition of CSS rules for each of these buttons. (could
introduce explosion in number of CSS classes, for different
states of the buttons.)
Mike: will propose a logical definition of buttons needed and
these will be discussed in the email list.
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141 - Add previous windowState and mode?
Resolution: Will be discussed further in email, particularly the
requirements outlined in Michael's email (3/12) on the subject.
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138 - How does info get to proxied resources?
Question: do we want to get this into version 1.0 of the spec.
Micheal feels that this would be needed in 1.0 only for support
of JSR-168. If that
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All subgroups will wait until after the spec is complete before
resuming teleconferences.
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Next Meeting:
Thursday March 20
8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00 pm CET
duration: 2 hours
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Meeting officially adjournded at 10:09 AM PST
Conversation continued on CR 138 amongst some members.
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