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Subject: RE: [wsrp][wsia][wsrp-wsia joint interfaces][Draft Spec 0.44]
Rich, Sorry for the late response -- I am slightly concerned with the approach of consolidating the "create" operations into a single concept. Not to beat a dead horse, but your previous analysis revealed different operations, such as: - Creating a transient thingy from a persistent one ("instantiation"). This is a relatively simple concept. - Creating a persistent thingy from another persistent one. This is a much more complex beast, that raises questions such as inheritance, cloning, etc. - not sure that there's a single operation here. - Creating a persistent thingy from a transient one. This is even a more complex beast: the question of what gets persisted etc. is tough (e.g., the user has just typed in a stock symbol, does that get persisted?). It probably deserves a different interface. - Creating a transient thingy from another transient one. Not sure if that's needed at all. In addition, I foresee many services, especially in the WSIA world but possibly even in WSRP in B2B scenarios, where an organization would provide run-time access to a WSIA service / portlet but would not support creating new persistent thingies, etc. (which require manual processes that relate to approval, billing, etc.). I believe we would be much better off defining the run-time model separately (i.e., creating transient thingies and transferring them throughout the interaction), and then merge it with the management aspects, which, as Alejandro suggested, may even be better encapsulated as separate interfaces, and even if not - have a completely different spin to them. Any thoughts? Eilon -----Original Message----- From: Rich Thompson [mailto:richt2@us.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:30 AM To: wsia@lists.oasis-open.org; wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org Subject: Re: [wsrp][wsia][wsrp-wsia joint interfaces][Draft Spec 0.44] Sorry about this duplication, but I just remembered that I had intended to turn on line numbers so as to make the discussion easier (provided we all use them to point at the area we are commenting on). Here is the version with this turned on. (See attached file: WSIA-WSRP Joint Spec Draft 0.44.doc) Rich Thompson/Watson/I To: wsia@lists.oasis-open.org, wsrp@lists.oasis-open.org BM@IBMUS cc: Subject: [wsrp][wsia][wsrp-wsia joint interfaces][Draft Spec 0.44] 05/30/2002 08:57 AM As requested on Tuesday, here is a modified version of the Draft Spec that reflects having orthogonal concepts of "sessions" and "entities" carried throughout the API. Thomas has inserted a few initial comments from a WSRP perspective (in particular, potential answers to some of the open questions in the Note blocks). (See attached file: WSIA-WSRP Joint Spec Draft 0.44.doc) #### WSIA-WSRP Joint Spec Draft 0.44.doc has been removed from this note on May 30 2002 by Rich Thompson
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