Re: [wsrp] navigational state change

[Subbu Allamaraju <subbu@bea.com>]

"The Consumer SHOULD supply this value as the navigationalState on the 
subsequent invocations for this use of the Portlet for at least the 
duration of the End-User's interactions with this aggregated page in 
order to maintain End-User state. The Consumer is not required to 
persist the navigationalState for longer than this set of interactions, 
but can provide such a persistence if desired."

On your question on direct vs indirect, I don't understand why a portlet 
can't encode new navState in a URL during a getMarkup?

Subbu

Wesley Budziwojski wrote:
> Subbu,
> 
> "In that sense, the portlet is not changing its state directly."
> 
> One would think that direct or indirect change is a change :)
> Interesting; Direct change - meaning Consumer changed navig state and 
> sent it in markupParam) or
> indirect change -only Producer is aware of the change (new state) and 
> renders based on that?
> 
> What does following render() and reload expected to do?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wesley
> 
> 
> Subbu Allamaraju wrote:
> 
>> In this case, the portlet is not returning new navState, but is 
>> encoding  this state in a URL. This is navState change, but happens 
>> when a UA submits the request to the consumer. In that sense, the 
>> portlet is not changing its state directly.
>>
>> Also not that this example is true only for render URLs.
>>
>> SubbuThe Consumer SHOULD supply this value as the navigationalState on the subsequent invocations for this use of the Portlet for at least the duration of the End-User's interactions with this aggregated page in order to maintain End-User state. The Consumer is not required to persist the navigationalState for longer than this set of interactions, but can provide such a persistence if desired.
>>
>> Wesley Budziwojski wrote:
>>
>>> Section 3.12
>>>
>>> "Examples of when one of the optional steps 
>>> (performBlockingInteraction and handleEvents) might not be used include:
>>>
>>>    * The End-User interacting with a URL that simply looks to render
>>>      the Portlet's markup with a different navigational state (e.g.
>>>      with the next set of results from a search). In this case, both of
>>>      the first two steps could be skipped. "
>>>
>>> It seems that  to render Portlet's mark-up with a different 
>>> navigational state implies that  Portlet needs to change its 
>>> navigational state and
>>> if so the change of the Portlet's state should happen in PBI or there 
>>> is no navigational state change in this use case?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Wesley
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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