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Subject: Re: [wsrp] Comments on the schema/spec changes from last week


It doesn't handle the situation when the consumer gets the initial 
content from the portlet.
    -Mike-

Mike Caffyn wrote:

>I have to say something as there seems to be a lot of duplication here.
>getResource is now the doALL. Are pbia() and gm() required anymore? :-) Is
>there anything that getResource doesn't handle apart from eventing?
>
>Mike 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Jacob [mailto:richard.jacob@de.ibm.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:12 AM
>To: Subbu Allamaraju
>Cc: wsrp
>Subject: Re: [wsrp] Comments on the schema/spec changes from last week
>
>1.
>I agree. We must not allow portlet clones to appear on gM().
>Therefore the statechange flag should not be moved to runtime context (it's
>also more complicated for a mapping layer since the location between v1 &
>v2 changed totally) and it should be passed to getResource() in
>ResourceParams.
>Also MimeResponse should not return the portletContext rather it should be
>the ResourceResponse.
>
>2.
>agreed. see comment above
>
>3.
>I do not see any reason either.
>
>Some more comments:
>Portlet managed modes are described using ItemDescription which has a
>localized description and a non-localized name.
>This is similar to custom mode description, however I think the situation
>is different here.
>Custom modes were kind of negotiated between the Consumer and the Producer
>and therefor the Consumer was able to render the decoration accordingly.
>However with portlet managed modes we expect the consumer to display the
>mode text in the decoration according to what the portlet specified.
>
>I think having just the non-localized name attribute is not sufficient,
>since the modes could have names like
>"urn:com.your.company:somebrand:bla:bla:mode".
>This is certainly not what should be displayed in the UI.
>Therefore I think that portlet managed modes should also have a localized
>display title.
>
>Mit freundlichen Gruessen / best regards,
>
>        Richard Jacob
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>             Subbu Allamaraju                                              
>             <subbu@bea.com>                                               
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>1. My understanding of the use case brought up for state changes during
>markup/resource request was to let the consumer/producer allow state
>changes provided such a change does not require the producer to
>implicitly clone the portlet and return new portletContext.
>
>But the schema changes now allow state changes to happen regardless of
>cloning. In the updated schema, the producer can return portletContext
>with markup/resource responses. What is the use case for this?
>
>2. On pbia and handleEvents, portletStateChangeRequired flag is
>duplicated. Since RuntimeContext is always present, we don't
>portletStateChangeRequired elements in InteractionParams and EventParams.
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>3. On a related note, the position of the "events" element was changed
>in UpdateResponse. Any reason for this change?
>
>Subbu
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