RE: [wss-m] IBM's Position on Submitting WSS-M for ISO Standardization

[Hal Lockhart <hal.lockhart@oracle.com>]

It is my understanding that the understanding between OASIS and JTC1 is that only OASIS Standards and Errata thereto will be submitted to JTC1.

The relevant requirement from the OASIS TC Process for any OASIS Standard is that three Statements of Use have been submitted. A Statement of Use is defined as:

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"Statement of Use", with respect to a Committee Specification, is a written statement by an OASIS Organizational Member stating that it is successfully using or implementing that specification in accordance with the conformance clauses specified in Section 2.18, identifying those clauses that apply, and stating whether its use included the interoperation of multiple independent implementations. A Statement of Use must be endorsed by the Organizational Member's Primary Representative.
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The WSS-M TC has already received (at least) 3 such Statements, so this requirement has already been fulfilled.

Note that the Statement must say if interoperability testing has occurred, but such interoperation is not required by OASIS. In the case of WSS-M, the participants are basing their Statements of interoperation on testing done in the past, as there have been no changes by the WSS-M TC which affect interoperability. In fact, the TC is forbidden by Charter to make any changes of that sort.

In any event, I believe the consensus of the TC is to advance WSS 1.1.1 to OASIS Standard. The issue under debate is whether or not to follow that with submission to JTC1.

Hal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Rutt [mailto:TRutt@us.fujitsu.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 12:37 PM
> To: Hal Lockhart; Calvin Powers; wss-m@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [wss-m] IBM's Position on Submitting WSS-M for ISO
> Standardization
> 
> I would like a clarification:
> 
> Do OASIS rules require a number of interoperable implementations of
> each spec before is may be submitted for JTC1 PAS ballot?
> 
> If we cannot find that number of  interoprating implementations, this
> question is somewhat moot.
> 
> Tom Rutt
> Fujitsu
> ________________________________________
> From: wss-m@lists.oasis-open.org [wss-m@lists.oasis-open.org] On Behalf
> Of Hal Lockhart [hal.lockhart@oracle.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 2:11 PM
> To: Calvin Powers; wss-m@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [wss-m] IBM's Position on Submitting  WSS-M for ISO
> Standardization
> 
> Oracle is neutral on ISO submission. We agree with Calvin's comments
> that it has value and that most of the work has already been done.
> However we have no significant resources to commit to it and therefore
> do not insist on it.
> 
> Hal
> 
> 
> From: Calvin Powers [mailto:cspowers@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: wss-m@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [wss-m] IBM's Position on Submitting WSS-M for ISO
> Standardization
> 
> David and other members of the Work Group,
> 
> I have discussed with my colleagues the proposal that was raised at the
> last WSS-M Work Group meeting to not submit WSS-M to ISO and instead
> put the work group into maintenance mode.
> 
> IBM continues to believe this is a robust, broadly accepted standard
> and that there is value in seeking ISO standardization.  Given that no
> substantive changes have been needed for this update, we would not
> anticipate any obstacles or objections in the ISO committee. As noted
> on our last call, several other standards from OASIS have recently
> "sailed through" the ISO process and we would not expect our experience
> with WSS-M to be any different.  Therefore IBM would prefer to stick to
> the work group's original charter and submit the standard to ISO.
> 
> Calvin Powers
> 
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