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Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
This introduces the following problem, membership requires us to 
participate in X% of all ballots so people who not vote ....
 
I suggest we have a two stage vote process, each company gets one vote in 
the final ballot stage, the first stage is to determine which way a 
company votes based on its inputs.
 
Companies which vote different ways may have an image problem....
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From: Kelvin Lawrence [mailto:klawrenc@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:29 PM
To: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Interop Ballot - update please read


One of our members just pointed out to me that I probably should have 
asked that folks from the same company coordinate and have only one of 
them vote on the interop time frame preference . The Kavi system as far as 
I can tell is not setup to allow for "one vote per company" votes - and 
this makes sense given the OASIS process where all TC members get a vote. 
However, it would be great if folks from the same company could agree 
amongst themselves what their preference is and elect one person to vote 
on their behalf. 

I hope you are all able to access the ballot!! 

Cheers
Kelvin

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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Bill, thanks for the note. As you
will see from my mail below I totally agree with you about the voting process
and acknowledged that that is the OASIS process in my mail. If you go look
at the ballot form you will see that every voting member indeed does has
the option to vote. My mail should be read as a suggestion only that folks
coordinate amongst their colleagues. I probably should have worded my mail
better and just suggest individuals try to coordinate with their colleagues
before they vote - this achieves the same end result. As we agreed on our
TC call yesterday we are just trying to use the tool here to have a straw
poll and close a discussion that we started on our last meeting of who
would be interested in taking part in an interoperability event - and specifically
when. Every single voting member is free to vote in this straw poll and
that is all it is just a straw poll not a formal vote in any way shape
or form - and definitely not a thing that will affect membership status.
We just want to figure out what date to pick for our next F2F meeting such
that we can do an interop event and have as many companies as we can taking
part to exercise the spec as much as possible</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I will try and word my suggestions better
in the future :-)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cheers<br>
Kelvin<br>
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<br><font size=3>My comments may be out of place since this is a straw
poll and not a formal vote. However, it is my opinion that even in straw
polls, the spirit of OASIS process should be adhered to.<br>
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Membership in OASIS TCs is determined by &quot;Eligible Persons&quot; as
defined in the OASIS TC Process:</font>
<br><font size=3>&quot;'Eligible Person' means one of a class of individuals
that includes persons holding individual memberships in the corporation,
employees of organizational members of the corporation, members of organizations
to which OASIS has extended the benefits of joint membership, and such
other persons as may be designated by the board of directors.&quot;</font>
<br><font size=3>From the section on voting:</font>
<br><font size=3>Every member of a TC has a single vote. Organizations
do not vote in TCs. Proxies shall not be allowed in TC voting.</font>
<br><font size=3>While it may be desirable to learn the opinion of Organizations
(read companies), formal votes and straw polls are not the mechanism by
which to do so. I would suggest that if companies wish to make their opinions
known, they caucus internally, and report back an opinion through one or
more of their TC members.<br>
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Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">This introduces the following
problem, membership requires us to participate in X% of all ballots so
people who not vote ....</font>
<br><font size=3>&nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">I suggest we have a two stage
vote process, each company gets one vote in the final ballot stage, the
first stage is to determine which way a company votes based on its inputs.</font>
<br><font size=3>&nbsp;</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Companies which vote different
ways may have an image problem....</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<b><br>
From:</b> Kelvin Lawrence [</font><a href=mailto:klawrenc@us.ibm.com><font size=2 color=blue face="Tahoma"><u>mailto:klawrenc@us.ibm.com</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Tahoma">]<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:29 PM<b><br>
To:</b> </font><a href="mailto:wss@lists.oasis-open.org"><font size=2 color=blue face="Tahoma"><u>wss@lists.oasis-open.org</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b><br>
Subject:</b> Interop Ballot - update please read<br>
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One of our members just pointed out to me that I probably should have asked
that folks from the same company coordinate and have only one of them vote
on the interop time frame preference . The Kavi system as far as I can
tell is not setup to allow for &quot;one vote per company&quot; votes -
and this makes sense given the OASIS process where all TC members get a
vote. However, it would be great if folks from the same company could agree
amongst themselves what their preference is and elect one person to vote
on their behalf.</font><font size=3> <br>
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I hope you are all able to access the ballot!!</font><font size=3> <br>
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Cheers<br>
Kelvin</font>
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