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Subject: Minutes for Telecon, Tuesday 26 August 2003
Minutes for WSSTC Telecon, Tuesday 26 August 2003
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Minutes taken by Steve Anderson
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Summary
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Votes:
- Minutes from 12 August 2003 meeting accepted (unanimous)
Decisions:
- Interop2 to be held week of 22 Sept
- Votes on advancing 3 docs to CS will open soon and close around
5 Sept
New (General) Action Items:
- Kelvin will clean up doc links from TC home page
Issues List Action Items & Status Updates:
- 128: Resolved in lastest revision
- CLOSED
- 129: Resolved in lastest revision
- CLOSED
- 130: Resolved in lastest revision
- CLOSED
- 131: Phill provided clarification
- CLOSED
- 132: Resolved in lastest revision
- CLOSED
- 133: Merlin to provide text
- PENDING
- 134: Editors to review and correct if comfortable
- PENDING
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Raw Notes
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>
> Agenda:
>
> 1. Roll call
>
- Attendance attached to bottom of these minutes
- Quorum achieved
>
> 2. Review minutes from previous meeting (8/12/2003)
> < http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wss/
> 200308/msg00028.html >
>
- [VOTE] unanimous consent, accepted
>
> 3. Editorial updates/document status [Editors]
>
- Phill: had meeting re:X509 draft last Thursday
- sorted out all outstanding issues
- lost power before minutes could go out
- Merlin made final edits
- v10 is uploaded on site
- not aware of any remaining outstanding issues
- Kelvin: so you feel this is the version we'll be voting on?
- Phill: yes
- believes any issues are with other parts of the spec
- Ron: tried to download, and couldn't read PDF, did anyone else
- Chris: didn't have any trouble
- Kelvin: just tried it and got bizarre HTML error
- Hal: not a persistent problem
- Phill: asks Tony to post V10 to list
- Tony: will do
- Tony: core spec updated, posted last night v16
- includes all issues, including Merlin's late ones
- Kelvin: didn't get notification of posting
- Hal: doesn't see it either
- Hal: owes some non-normative text for core, re: the 2 c14n methods
- will post later today
- would like to see in the Committee Spec
- Tony: doc is listed on OASIS web site
- seem to be issues with Kavi notifications
- Kelvin: sees in repository
- Chris: doesn't see point in holding up spec for Hal's non-normative
text
- Hal: ok with that
- Kelvin: asks Hal to send "issue" email re: this text
- Kelvin: asks everyone to consider this version the one we'll vote on
- Tony: Username is out there, and no issues are pending
- v4 is most recent
- Kelvin: so, X509 v10, Core v16, and Username Token v4 is the set for
consideration
- Ron: letting me off easy here
- Kelvin: was going to cover this later, but if you have update now,
that's ok
- Ron: was on vacation last week, so didn't work on it
- will work on it this week & show it to the SAML folks
- will have ready by next meeting
>
> 5. Address any remaining V1 issues [reversed agenda order of these 2 items]
>
- Chris: going through issues list v23
- 31: nothing new
- Kelvin: asks OASIS board to escalate, but nothing moving
- 82: skipping
- 127: was pending
- Hal: this is his
- update to say: "Resolution is for Hal to provide non-normative text"
- doesn't block shipping
- 128: was in Tony's update
- CLOSED
- 129: CLOSED
- 130: should be in latest update
- CLOSED
- 131:
- Chris: proposes we defer until interop discussion
- CLOSED [based on later discussion]
- 132:
- Hal: significant one fixed, other is irrelevant
- CLOSED
- 133:
- [discussion]
- Merlin will provide text to editors
- PENDING
- Kelvin: this could hold us up, so when can this be done?
- Chris: hopes Merlin can get this out today
- Hal: then, would like his text included too
- agrees
- Tony will incorporate and rev Core
- 134: Merlin going through
- 1st is minor
- for the other, the syntax of the example needs to match, and that
will result in updating line number references
- Paul: we're reaching the point of marginal returns
- this can be done as a comment
- Hal: if we're making an update already, why not incorporate all
changes
- Paul: the more people speaking up now, the less comfortable we are
voting on this now
- Hal: this should be the end of the list
- Chris: how do the editors feel about it
- Tony: the edits are fine, but re-linking the line numbers could be
a pain
- will look at it, and may defer the line numbering change
- Kelvin: please post a summary email of what made it & what didn't
- Chris: this is it for what we'll fix before the public review period
- Kelvin: need everyone to review these docs
- Prateek: can a message go out identifying the doc set for review?
- Kelvin: yes, will do
- Hal: the home page of the TC points to really old versions
- should delete or update
- [ACTION] Kelvin will clean up doc links from TC home page
>
> 4. Discussion of second interop scenarios
>
- Hal: published new version yesterday
- relatively small changes
- timestamp moved to back of header
- STR deref transform parameter when in, but did it wrong, will fix
- various issues with 2 ping scenario
- Phill clarified a point
- Hal will update and re-post
- only thing left will be the fact that ping schema isn't right
- Chris: there was issue 131
- Hal: Phill answered that, so considers it CLOSED
- UPDATED issue 131
- Chris: has only gotten about 3 responses on interop participation
- so asking now who can participate
- Merlin: Baltimore probably could in about a week
- Jan: Systinet can participate in about a week
- Tony: IBM can be ready tomorrow
- Ron: interested, but timeframe is issue
- Chris: would 30 days work?
- Ron: can't give definite answer, but 30 days or longer sounds right
- Symon: CommerceOne maybe in 30 days
- Shawn: Cyclone, ditto
- Peter: BEA, ditto
- Yutaka: Hitachi needs 3 weeks
- Chris: so we have 7 "for sure" and 2 "maybe"
- TJ: ContentGuard can be ready then
- proposes we shoot for 30 days
- Kelvin: doesn't want this to go past public review, so this will be
close
- Chris: so week of 22 Sept?
- Paul: WS-I BSP F2F is that week (23-25)
- Chris: this is completely virtual
- Paul: but people can't do 2 things at once, if it's the same people
- Chris: is this an issue for anyone listed?
- [none raised]
- Ron: what would schedule be?
- Chris: expects to have stuff up all week
- can setup specific times, but usually done ad hoc
- Chris: any objections?
- [none]
- RESOLVED: interop to be held week of 22 Sept
- Hal: OASIS Board is considering extending public review period from 30 to
60 days
- Jamie: 60 days is developing as an international standard
- encourages TC to send comments to board members or Karl if we feel this
will critically affect our work
- Ron: asking about interop c14n use
- seems that those who already have excl c14n code built, they don't have
to change
- but for those who will be writing new code, they'll be writing throw-
away code
- ??: not really throw-away
- [discussion of what is required by XML Sig, and what may be
needed/useful for interop in practice]
- Chris: this was already agreed to
- Hal: we can proceed with interop 2 as is, and we can use incl c14n for
SAML-based interop, which hopefully will follow shortly
- Ron: still not my preference, because it involves doing new work in an
area that they don't intend to use in practice
>
> 6. V1 committee spec vote plan
>
- Kelvin: there will be 3 votes, one per spec, to advance to CS
- will set up to close by 5 Sept, and will have results on 9 Sept call
- there are a few to-do's for editors
- will not put votes up until new revs can be referenced explicitly
- Jamie: have been reports of oddities with Kavi voting
- suggests people, shortly after voting, re-confirm that their votes are
recorded
>
> 7. Other business
>
- none
>
> 8. Adjourn
>
- Adjourned
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Attendance of Voting Members:
Gene Thurston AmberPoint
Merlin Hughes Baltimore Technologies
Irving Reid Baltimore Technologies
Peter Dapkus BEA
Hal Lockhart BEA
Symon Chang CommerceOne
Thomas DeMartini ContentGuard
Guillermo Lao ContentGuard
TJ Pannu ContentGuard
Shawn Sharp Cyclone Commerce
Rich Salz Data Power
Tim Moses Entrust
Toshihiro Nishimura Fujitsu
Jason Rouault HP
Yutaka Kudo Hitachi
Derek Fu IBM
Maryann Hondo IBM
Kelvin Lawrence IBM
Anthony Nadalin IBM
Nataraj Nagaratnam IBM
Don Flinn Individual
Bob Morgan Individual
Paul Cotton Microsoft
Vijay Gajjala Microsoft
Chris Kaler Microsoft
Chris Kurt Microsoft
John Shewchuk Microsoft
Prateek Mishra Netegrity
Frederick Hirsch Nokia
Senthil Sengodan Nokia
Lloyd Burch Novell
Howard Melman Novell
Ed Reed Novell
Charles Knouse Oblix
Steve Anderson OpenNetwork
Vipin Samar Oracle
Jerry Schwarz Oracle
Andrew Nash RSA Security
Edward Coyne SAIC
Jonathan Tourzan Sony
Yassir Elley Sun Microsystems
Jeff Hodges Sun Microsystems
Ronald Monzillo Sun Microsystems
Jan Alexander Systinet
Don Adams TIBCO
John Weiland US Navy
Phillip Hallam-Baker VeriSign
Mark O'Neill Vordel
Attendance of Observers or Prospective Members:
John Hughes Entegrity
Jamie Clark OASIS
Abbie Barbir Nortel
BJ Fesq S&P
Membership Status Changes:
Louisa Saunier HP - Granted voting status after 8/26/2003 call
John Hughes Entegrity - Granted voting status after 8/26/2003 call
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Steve
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